[3.17] CWDT Scion - PoB with trade-links for fast buying

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Hi, this is a great build, Can we ignore the chill and Shock immunity?

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Alshared86 wrote:

Hi, this is a great build, Can we ignore the chill and Shock immunity?

I would say chill you can, since it will "only" slow you down, but it might get on your nervs getting slowed in a map :D.

Shock you should get immunity. That is definitely achieveable with clusters/jewel implicits only (not necessary on boots)

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heytakemydataplease wrote:

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Alshared86 wrote:

Hi, this is a great build, Can we ignore the chill and Shock immunity?

I would say chill you can, since it will "only" slow you down, but it might get on your nervs getting slowed in a map :D.

Shock you should get immunity. That is definitely achieveable with clusters/jewel implicits only (not necessary on boots)

Thanks for your reply, I have already tried to mitigate the shock and freeze,
In fact, it's a great build, I tested against delve boss at +450 depth,
But I feel it's lacking some DPS, could you please check the POB.

https://pastebin.com/ZBv4EW8V

Many thanks

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Alshared86 wrote:

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heytakemydataplease wrote:

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Alshared86 wrote:

Hi, this is a great build, Can we ignore the chill and Shock immunity?

I would say chill you can, since it will "only" slow you down, but it might get on your nervs getting slowed in a map :D.

Shock you should get immunity. That is definitely achieveable with clusters/jewel implicits only (not necessary on boots)

Thanks for your reply, I have already tried to mitigate the shock and freeze,
In fact, it's a great build, I tested against delve boss at +450 depth,
But I feel it's lacking some DPS, could you please check the POB.

https://pastebin.com/ZBv4EW8V

Many thanks

Build looks good, the main dps will come from Skill Gems (Divergent lvl21 Ice spear.

On your tree you could change few things like this (you miss out 28% spell damage - I posted a PoB at the end of my message with your build and changes to the tree):


Then you should check to reach skeleton summons to be same as your CDR rate (0.198) - that should be easy to fix just level your "Less Duration" to LVL3 (i checked in PoB, u need Lvl3 for that gem):



I wonder if you can run 4 flasks at boss fights because in PoB i can see your uptime is only 69% (maybe in reality it shigher and maybe you have 10-20% flask gain on your brutal restraint, its not set in PoB so dont know):


I have changed a bit the tree and added a medium cluster + normal jool to try to mitigate a bit the lack of your resistances and now the uptime of orloth is 92% without setting brutal restraint passives, if you have there 10% you should be close to 100% and fine. your dps looks fine though its be around 37.5mio total dps (with the changes i made in the tree and the two jools i added - i configured it in pob you can check and see).

i think dmg-wise once you upgrade gems and chest to be able to have 3 blue, 2red 1 green you will climb pretty good.

here the your PoB:
https://pastebin.com/6QaAzb0r

hope it helps

Hi mate, i wonder if you can help me with my loopward, 1st time doing it and cant seem to figure out how to make it work.


https://pastebin.com/6ttG2ncw

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xDeimondevilx wrote:

Hi mate, i wonder if you can help me with my loopward, 1st time doing it and cant seem to figure out how to make it work.


https://pastebin.com/6ttG2ncw

0) your orloths flask need 28% quality, it has only 20% (your uptime is only ~70% it should be 100%)

1) u have to much skill reduction (get 2x 19% and 1x 20% to dust than it should be fine)

2) you need on your belt reduced flask charges used without the "increased effect" and try to get 20% cdr for the 27%cdr breakpoint combied with 7cdr on boots (or get on abyss with 2-3%cdr and adjust from there example: 3cdr abyssal + 5cdr boots + 19cdr belt /// 2cdr abyssal 7cdr boots 18cdr belt.. you get the idea)

3) boots (and one large cluster) have chaos resistance (we need -60 or calculate properly our life/forbidden rite dmg..) and as well here try to get the 7% cdr on boots implicits then you should hit the 0.198 breakpoint with a 20cdr belt (as mentioned in 2))

4) your life is to low for loop (~2400 and you need around ~2980) - this can be easily fixed if you change your tree accordingly (and i highly recommend you spec into unwavering stance since you dont have it on your chest, else you need to get 15% stun avoidance on your jewel implicits which is annoying and once you upgrade to hatred u need the place for shock/frozen implicits)

5) switch one loop ring to 420 phy dmg taken and you can use a rare ring (i made a custom one which could fit)

6) one of your clusters gives you chaos resistance as well, you need to switch - to increase your dps (which I assume u trying by running two large clusters) you can easily use just one with sadist and stormrider to be honest. once you hit the 100mio dps mark you can try to min/max towards a second large cluster to get to 150+ but thats a long road i would say.

7) survival secret you used is not correct, i put in the correct one (reduced effect

so ye couple of things actually I would respecc and follow the path you trying to go once you are min/maxing your gear. with the small changes i upped your dps for about 15mio and your health/cdr to the right amount for looping. u could even think about switching out intuitive leap since I specced upwards and replace it with a crit multi+life jewel, but ye i kept it now in the build.

here the PoB with item changes/configuration set and items adjusted and skill gems resocketed where it makes more sense than you had (please take a close look at skill gems/items and tree):
https://pastebin.com/4dckVg9n

if you follow the posted PoB based on your equipment and the changes i did for the equipment/skill sockets you should be able to loop and it should work fine. it will require some ex to fix the build (~50-80) but after that you should be able to use 4 flasks + run all content without issues.

hope it helps

Hi heytakemydataplease,
First of all, thank you for your help :),
I almost follow your advice, now it's running almost perfectly, Delve +500, T16 Blighted maps AFK, guardians, etc
only one issue, sometimes I get one shot, maybe because of the uptime of the olroth is 92%.
to resolve this, I think to invest in 32 increase duration built.
this is my updated POB if you have any advice.
https://pastebin.com/E6Z62Ubb

Many thanks

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Alshared86 wrote:

Hi heytakemydataplease,
First of all, thank you for your help :),
I almost follow your advice, now it's running almost perfectly, Delve +500, T16 Blighted maps AFK, guardians, etc
only one issue, sometimes I get one shot, maybe because of the uptime of the olroth is 92%.
to resolve this, I think to invest in 32 increase duration built.
this is my updated POB if you have any advice.
https://pastebin.com/E6Z62Ubb

Many thanks

Happy to hear, your build looks great.

to reach 100% uptime on orloths you can just skill these nodes once you gain one level (and 1 level you unspecc from the large jewel since it doesnt hurt):


I think you should remove 1x heartloop with your setup (keep the one with corrupted attributes) and replace with a rare ring with a socket so you can use sigil (17% less dmg taken, adds lighting dmg to spell as well) to get a bit more tanky - for that you have to 4-link your boots and adjust the levels of the gems a bit and put RF into the ring:



Make sure to have high life on the ring so that you can continue loop, the ring i crafted should be able to keep you looping - I set up the trade link for you to find a similar one (just use life catalysts instead of attributes to pump up more life on the rings in this search):
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/352zLLKC5

And here your PoB with the changes I did above (increased your dps, effective pool, orloth uptime and fixed resistance that way):
https://pastebin.com/386hWyEb

(I replaced as well awakened cold damage support with 21/20 eye of winter since its such a better filler for kill speed and bossing)

enjoy.

you can contact me ingame as well if you have questions:
IGN: EditMe

Hi heytakemydataplease!

I'm not exactly following your build guide but have something quite similar. I've tried Divergent CWDT 21/20 in SOTL, Anomalous Skele 21/20 but it didn't work out for me so I figured I didn't have enough HP to run 21 skele. I switched to 11/20 skele, 19/20 Divergent CWDT, lower than lvl19 lesser duration and it works!

The problem makes it feel scuffed actually starts here: in hideout my loop sustains forever, but in map, especially in the middle of mob packs or in front of boss it randomly stops. I have to quickly restart it and it feels annoying because it takes sometimes to ramp up again.

I thought it was a mana issue so I respec MOM and slot in lvl1 FR and self cast Sigil. But I keeps running into the same problem again and again which make the experience very frustrating.

I was wonder if you can have a look at my POB and help me figure about what's wrong with it..

Here's my POB: https://pastebin.com/rmDhS8a6

Thank you so much!