Unique idols not existing in Ruthless Phrecia?

Well I'll give a shot to put a post there about it even if we're not a lot playing Ruthless Phrecia.

I would say we have like 15ish people active in Ruthless Phrecia and if I'm not wrong, no one ever saw idols like Destructive Play, Singular Focus or Shadow Shaping. I'm a bit scared those idols are just strictly not obtainable or are we unlucky not finding those?

I found many others multiple times but I feel crazy not finding some of what we consider top tier ones like mentioned above. Maybe they are weighted hard?

Can we have information at least so we can expect if they are obtainable at all? Thanks

Not sure. I never saw extensive patch notes for Phrecia, certainly not for Phrecia (Ruthless). It might exist, but haven't seen it.

It's possible some aren't included, like how there are restrictions on items, but I would think it is likely just less are being found.

To give you some idea of the drop rates in standard trade. I have dropped approximately 50 unique idols. Out of those 50, 2 were destructive play, 1 Shadow shaping, 0 Singular focus.

Don't have any further information though. I don't see anything in particular on those idols that would be cause for them to not be included in ruthless mode.

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Belegur85#5784 wrote:

To give you some idea of the drop rates in standard trade. I have dropped approximately 50 unique idols. Out of those 50, 2 were destructive play, 1 Shadow shaping, 0 Singular focus.

Wow that's definitely good information okay thanks! Maybe it's heavily weighted then, I dropped some unique idols that have "different stats" (ie: Lucid Dreams, I dropped two of thoses and its stats are unique to Ruthless) so I don't think it's related to being super different, would be cool to know if it's still in the Ruthless loot table!

I see. If there are some differences maybe there is a list of them somewhere. I had a quick look on PoeDB and idol wiki where the unique idols are listed, but did not see anything referencing ruthless. Nothing for idols on the ruthless wiki either.

There are 38 on list, so even if they have the same weighting, it would be possible to get a pretty big streak missing one.

I'm in SSF currently and have gotten a few off the bonus rewards from shipping quotas. From what I've been told shipping in ruthless has also has some changes.

I believe the rare idols I have been getting would be extremely powerful in ruthless, so would not surprise me if the idols have been weakened a bit for ruthless.