Lich ascendancy is bad design.

Here are the problematic points imo:

1. Eldritch empowerment doesn't let you cast AT ALL if you have no ES.

2. Soulless form and necromantic conduit should've been paired. The latter is just impossible to sustain w/o soulless form. It's such an obvious and logical progression that the only reason i can come up with for it being different is the desire to gate eternal life.

3. Eternal life does exactly what it says it does. If you have ES, your HP can't change. Meaning that if you get into a dangerous situation and survive with a sliver of HP, and your ES starts to regen... You're stuck with that sliver of HP without ANY ability to regen. Lifesteal, life regen, flasks, fountains, checkpoints... NONE work. This perk being gated after soulless form means that lich is meant to be a life-stacking build. Meaning no CI for you. Meaning this perk is either broken or bad design.

Overall this ascendancy leaves the impression of being incoherent.

Maybe you are using it wrong.

Since mana regen nodes work with Soulless Form you actually have insane mana regen even without playing a life-stacking build.

The fact that your life does not change is really nice since you can utilize the perks of constantly being on low life for nodes that give you faster cast speed/ faster start of energy shield recharge. (Final Barrage / Quick Response)

Through the use of Atziri's Disdain,Heavy Buffer node and Soulless Form itself you get a 25% flat out dmg reduction because the dmg will bypass your energy shield and since your life total wont change the dmg simply does not happen.

With ES investment lategame your can easy reach 8k+ energy shield, making is so you basically never get to the point where you have to rely on your lifepool.

Pic as reference: (Ignore the res overcap gear is not final xD)


So at least for me Lich works great as an ES based ED contaigion build with good defense and good dmg. (Only bosses dont melt instantly of course.)

so go back to town, unspek from that acendeancy point, use the well, then put the point back in. Problem solved.

There IS a uniques helmet u can equip.
That ler u Regen health again.
Its tidious. But it exist

I understand you don't like these points, I'm just not sure what makes these points "bad design".

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Arruzaki#3625 wrote:

Maybe you are using it wrong.

The fact that your life does not change is really nice since you can utilize the perks of constantly being on low life for nodes that give you faster cast speed/ faster start of energy shield recharge. (Final Barrage / Quick Response)

So at least for me Lich works great as an ES based ED contaigion build with good defense and good dmg. (Only bosses dont melt instantly of course.)

That's actually a good point. But how do you manage it? For example: i do enjoy death seal lich build in last epoch, and there i can just use a node that will fix my hp at 33%. I dont think similar options exist here

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Ovari#3383 wrote:

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Arruzaki#3625 wrote:

Maybe you are using it wrong.

The fact that your life does not change is really nice since you can utilize the perks of constantly being on low life for nodes that give you faster cast speed/ faster start of energy shield recharge. (Final Barrage / Quick Response)

So at least for me Lich works great as an ES based ED contaigion build with good defense and good dmg. (Only bosses dont melt instantly of course.)

That's actually a good point. But how do you manage it? For example: i do enjoy death seal lich build in last epoch, and there i can just use a node that will fix my hp at 33%. I dont think similar options exist here

The legendary helmet Visage of Ayah removes all your ES. Then you can use a spell with the lifetap support to get yourself to low hp(Incinerate for example works well for it since you can finetune the amount of hp you want to leave). Equip your normal helmet again and you will stay at low life until you die.

u can also just spec into CI and unspec right after, that way u're at 1 hp

I use the helmet, and control my life using low level life flasks.

To low your life I usually go to a low level zone and let mobs down my shield and life....

Not the best, but not a bother to me