tinctures dont work with shield skills

not sure if its an oversight or coding issue, but excluding sst, rest are with melee tag and they should work.
Last bumped on Apr 25, 2025, 6:33:38 PM
It is intentional that they have worded it that way so that works off the weapon type and not the melee skill tag. There are some other mechanics in the game that work like this as well. I don't know the precise reason why they have it that way, excluding those niche cases.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Apr 25, 2025, 8:24:00 AM
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It is intentional that they have worded it that way so that works off the weapon type and not the melee skill tag. There are some other mechanics in the game that work like this as well. I don't know the precise reason why they have it that way, excluding those niche cases.


im arguing the logic here, im not disputing that my shield is not coded as a "weapon" hence it doesnt benefit using tinctures... although its the weapon i use for my skill that is melee.

i can probably use spectral throw or kinetic blast with tincture, but not use shield crush...
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i can probably use spectral throw or kinetic blast with tincture, but not use shield crush...


Yeah I don't know. The wiki says they don't, but they seem to work on spectral throw for me in-game. Also seeing other people saying it works with cobra lash, etc.

I don't see a reason thematically why it couldn't apply to shields. It seems like in the design they need to interact directly with weapons. Which might be why it doesn't work with shield, as armor slot or unarmed, but can do ranged weapons with the ascendancy allocated. Maybe there is a limitation in the code for those niche setups.

This is from the tincture wiki:

"Tinctures only affect melee weapon attacks by default, and do not apply to wands, bows, and projectile skills based on melee weapons, such as Spectral Throw and Splitting Steel, unless the Warden's Seasoned Hunter passive skill has been allocated. Tinctures can never affect non-weapon hits, including spells, Unarmed attacks, and shield skills.[1]"

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Tincture
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Apr 25, 2025, 2:31:38 PM
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i can probably use spectral throw or kinetic blast with tincture, but not use shield crush...


Yeah I don't know. The wiki says they don't, but they seem to work on spectral throw for me in-game. Also seeing other people saying it works with cobra lash, etc.

I don't see a reason thematically why it couldn't apply to shields. It seems like in the design they need to interact directly with weapons. Which might be why it doesn't work with shield, as armor slot or unarmed, but can do ranged weapons with the ascendancy allocated. Maybe there is a limitation in the code for those niche setups.

This is from the tincture wiki:

"Tinctures only affect melee weapon attacks by default, and do not apply to wands, bows, and projectile skills based on melee weapons, such as Spectral Throw and Splitting Steel, unless the Warden's Seasoned Hunter passive skill has been allocated. Tinctures can never affect non-weapon hits, including spells, Unarmed attacks, and shield skills.[1]"

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Tincture


just tested it with spectral throw and definitely works with tinctures. it also works with splitting steel.
Last edited by feral_nature#7076 on Apr 25, 2025, 3:08:58 PM
Shield melee tag skills like Shield Crush where generally overlooked in the 3.25 melee buffs. Tinctures not working with it is just a little hatred cherry on top.
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just tested it with spectral throw and definitely works with tinctures. it also works with splitting steel.


Yeah I also tested with the rage tincture, it seemed to be generating rage and also giving buffs to Spectral throw from mods on the tincture. Perhaps something has changed and the information for this on the wiki is out of date or incorrect. Unless I'm reading it wrong, it seems to go against what it is saying.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Apr 25, 2025, 6:36:35 PM

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