3k ES vs 6% phys reduction

The Implicit on my Helmet increases my ES by a whopping 3.153 in Hideout.


The guide im following and many other profiles i watched all uses % phys damage taken as chaos.
So i tried it in PoB where i lose only 206 ES but increase my Phys max hit by 6%.
(Even after equipping)



I assume 3k ES are stronger than 6% phys reduction.
Am i right?

Im bad at math.
Last edited by LoTharios#3338 on Apr 27, 2025, 5:04:10 AM
Last bumped on Apr 27, 2025, 7:23:02 PM
Thats what PoB shows after equipping the phys reduction helmet and replace it with the original one.
Suddenly i gain over 2k ES.



So the question is, which one makes me tankier?
Im bad at math.
Last edited by LoTharios#3338 on Apr 27, 2025, 5:09:05 AM
It depends on your es pool, and your total PDR against the size of the hit. Your POB is a pretty good guide. It is telling you, that based on your configuration settings, the taken as chaos is better at mitigating phs, but the other is better for other damage types.

It then becomes a question of other factors. Which is more important for you. Keeping in mind, there are further factors than just mitigation. For example, recovery is often relative to the ES pool. Other thing as well, like DOT, Guard skills etc.

If you are not in much danger to the other damage types, but susceptible to physical, it might be more consistent for the build to cover off some of the weakness. The opposites can also be true, depending on the rest of the build and what you are trying to do. If you are trying to tank Shaper slam, PDR might be more important. If you are trying to tank memory game, ES might be more important. If you are doing mapping and getting a combination of damage types, you probably want it to be whatever is most consistent to where you are not dying or getting chunked. That will depend on how much damage you are taking from the relative damage types.
Hard to tell.
Playing the build just 3 days and i rarely die at all.

What hurts me the most seems to be the Corrupted Blood Choice in Ultimatum although i use an Immunity to Corrupted Blood Flask.
And the Flame Totems hurts too.

But i guess since me EHP is 5 times my Phys max hit i just use that.
Loose some damage though and my goal was to get the ES to 20k so im a little biased to ES.
Im bad at math.
Last edited by LoTharios#3338 on Apr 27, 2025, 9:10:00 AM
Hmm, don't know why that is, you should be immune. Might be some other DOT in the ultimatum.

Yeah with ephemeral edge damage coming into it as well. If you are not dying maybe more damage option is better. I usually tend to take the more tanky option as well though.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Apr 27, 2025, 10:35:32 AM
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What hurts me the most seems to be the Corrupted Blood Choice in Ultimatum although i use an Immunity to Corrupted Blood Flask.

I know with Mageblood you shouldn't have any issues, but I'm curious - if you replace / alteration the flask & get a cheap jewel with the corrupt implicit, do you still find Corrupted Blood to be a problem on that character? Just wondering where the issue might lie...
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The CB debuf is pretty easy not notice, it cant be getting applied with the flask immunity, so should not be coming up while doing these ultimatums. One of the other ultimatum choices is take phys damage over time, it could be that or maybe one of the mob types in the ultimatum doing DOT. I'm not sure if the choices you choose effect the mobs that spawn at all.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Apr 27, 2025, 5:50:46 PM
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One of the other ultimatum choices is take phys damage over time,


You could be right.
Its these razor blades flying around.
Im bad at math.
Hmm. Not too sure. I don't do a lot of ultimatum. That does sound like the corrupted blood one.

There is a list of the mods here:

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Ultimatum

You will be able to see if you are getting the corrupted blood debuff from the debuff icon. Which I assume you are not getting, so must be something else doing the damage. Maybe they do additional damage other than the CB. The fourth level for razor dance says something about it leaving a trail of blood on the ground. I'm not sure what that is exactly, but maybe it has something to do with it.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Apr 27, 2025, 7:28:33 PM

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