Not another ExSea is quitting POE thread - TLDR I'm loving LE

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Though he admits he might return someday

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exsea#1724 wrote:

because i already left when i said i m leaving.

but i m back on the forums!

why?

i've been playing LE a huge lot. there are 2 things i hate about LE.

the first is the graphics and animation. POE1/2 is magnitudes beyond LE.

the second is LE is not as "classless" as POE where you can use any gear with no class restrictions, similarly most skills are not tied to classes.

but theres where my complains end. beyond that i am having pure unbridled fun.

its real weird.

POE1 was the BEST GAME i ever played for 10 years. but the reality was it was the best OPTION i had. i always knew the game direction kept going in a way i didnt like, but it was still the best. there were a lot of design philosophies that i disagreed with. there were a lot of shortcomings. but i ate them all.

i also threw a large amount of cash at GGG because i wanted them to make the game i would enjoy till the day i died. as they said. a forever game.

but all that was just pure copium on my side. for the best game ever. many things happened that made me feel upset. outraged. depressed even. even helped give me heart issues lol. but i kept making excuses for the game.

poe2 will fix everything. until it didnt. poe1 is a gone game to me. i'm pretty sure GGG will always have poe1 to fall back to and ton of you guys enjoy poe1 with 100 times more passion than i do.

poe2 on the other hand, has a lot of promise. its GORGEOUS. it has so many things that i would want in a d-like. but GGG is stuck in many ways. they want to make the game deliberate but expectations from POE1 are just too great. POE1 enjoyers want zoom zoom. which is a direct contradiction to deliberate combat. deliberate combat cannot exist with zoom zoom as zoom zoom will always be the desired goal for players. there simply is NO WAY to balance a game into having both. actually there is one way i can think of, which is making zoom zoom obscenely difficult to get to, but is there as an aspiration. by the time you get there you would have won the game.

also, how do you balance a game with over 12 ascendancies and a buttload of skills, supports and gear?

poe1 is a curse on GGG's shoulders. they want to make poe2 new but they've bitten off a huge bite that they can't chew. i always defended them. i always said, let them cook. the moment they showed us the spear skills, i m like. hmmm.... this is gonna turn zoomy pretty soon. and was i wrong? sadly no. now we can see many players using the spear skills like RF just walking around enemies and melting them to death. GGG could rebalance em but i m guessing poe2 is at least 2-5 years more before they can get it in a comfortable place.

i m surprised that GGG did so many nerfs which is something i m happy that they did. its showing that they really are trying to bring player power levels down.

but the fact that they have those near spear aoes skills. how is that not going to be zoomy? i find it disgusting that i've asked for trumelee dash attacks for so long and ggg is gearlocking it onto spears.

aw shiznits. why.

that said. my confidence for GGG has waned. i played poe1 for 10 years and the ironic part was. i didnt know i actually HATED poe. as i said. it was the best option. there literally wasnt anything better. its like growing up on an island where the only source of food is literal mudcakes. i grew up enjoying mudcakes because i refused to move out of the island. but that was also because other islands were shitty too.

i learned to love something i should have hated to its core.

poe is stingy with loot.
poe early game feels bad.
poe's crafting is amazing but paired with it's stingy loot drops its practically non existant to regular players.
gap between weak players and stronger ones are stupidly huge.

theres more that i m too lazy to list out as this post is long enough already.

when i played LE. i never felt like i needed trade. from the get go i was getting upgrades for my character. pretty early on i learned to engage with crafting, upgrading my boots. i quickly got to T20 gear. T20 are similar to 6 prefix t1 rolls in poe. no influence or ascended rolls etc. its pretty solid and i have a good degree of influencing the crafting process. to get past t20 and to eventually go into Legendary gear. its a lot and i m crafting all the way.

the amount of drops i get feels so sufficient. FUCK the "game drops balanced around trade" philosophy. fuck trade. trade is responsible for ruining my happiness in modern gaming. trade gives the devs an excuse to make things drop in the stingiest manner possible. in fact i remember how GGG introduced area level penalty to discourage low level farming. which indirectly meant, the weaker you are, the harder it is to get stronger. if you're overleveled but cant kill harder stuff, you're stuck low level areas which get affected by the level difference penalty.

then when you die at later levels you get slappend with a death penalty. if you run a map and lose it. you lose the map. period.

here i am just NOT having to deal with all that shit in LE. my early game all the way to the end was not a grindfest. i didnt need to waste my time looking for silly things such as sockets, links and colours. i just kept moving forward. i just kept having fun.

got to end game. sucked. died in a map. i could redo the map albeit with the reward removed. in most cases i m never severely punished for dying. there are some levels of punishment but it seems so inconsequential that i dont care.

i dont worry about ITEM HAVING WEIGHT. i carry tons of stuff on my character. certain items are vacuumed on pick up and auto stashed outside of my regular inventory. less clicking, less tedium. i can concentrate on just killing shit.

theres just so much fun i m experiencing. fun that i have not enjoyed for many years simply because i believed that POE was the best game ever. i believed that all these friction was important for me to enjoy the game.

but it turns out. i was wrong.

I HATED ALL THIS FRICTION. it was overly punishing. it was gatekeeping. it was grindy AF. all i was doing all the time was farming yellow juice or some other bullshit to get divines to buy shit off of trade.

sometimes on this forum people will just read these posts of mine and say see you next league.

they're not wrong. i've tucked my tail many times and came back crawling. what can i say? POE was still king.

in fact some people insisted i was burnt out and just needed time away from POE.

i ll be real to say, i do miss POE. the boss fights. SIRUS and his epic OST. which got topped by Exarch's OST. Lioneye's watch A1N1. oshabi's UwU boss music OST. theyre all awesome. theres just so much awesomeness that POE has. too much. till this very day whenever i go home from work i would tell myself "cant wait to go home and play POE". POE had been ingrained to me as a synonym for gaming. i have to then correct myself. MHWilds or LE. i mostly play LE now.

now i remember poe with rosetinted glasses somewhat.

poe has been a huge part of my life. near a quarter of it i guess? lol. might be more. i've spent so much time, effort and money on this game.

many times people say stuf to me that i dont like to hear. "this game isnt for you".

i was always so passionate, giving tons of feedback and suggestions. all because i WANT poe to be a game for me. I WANT to love POE.

but now i've realized. you guys were right all these while. POE simply isnt for me. i m done not having fun. i m done pretending GGG didnt carelessly tear away the sanctity of standard's permanency.

i've given enough to GGG. i do hope to come back one day but i doubt GGG would ever get to the point that they want to make the game fun.

they're stuck with d2 mindset. d2 was a pioneer. it was in a different time, a different era. times have changed. with that stubbornness, i only can see GGG doing the same thing over and over again. and they cant help it. GGG will cave in. i foresee poe2 being zoomy. money talks and players have learned to vote with their wallet.

i actually didnt vote with my wallet. i actually supported GGG all the way. in fact i had convinced myself that spending money on GGG was a good thing. the more money they had, the more likely the game would improve. improve it did but not in the direction that i wanted. but i still spent more money on them. is this stockholm syndrome? lol.


i dont even know if i want to try poe2 when its officially released anymore.

i am tired and too lazy to follow POE news anymore. in fact, LE has kept me so occupied i dont even bother.

will this be my last post? i really cant say with 100% certainty. as everytime i do. i come back. but in the here and now. theres nothing in poe that makes me want to play the game anymore.

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gandhar0#5532 wrote:

PoE 2 copied a few things from LE's endgame and made me smile/laugh when they revealed the PiE 2 endgame back in december. Also chat in PoE twitch channel at reveal day spammed (paraphrasing) "LE endgame","LE maps", etc.

-Towers = Beacons
-The way the endgame map looks with these connections
-Corruption (reverse here bit still)
-Lost map rewards when dying

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InuMagic#7397 wrote:

All this text and the guy still gonna 40 challenge next patch if it comes out lol.

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DoubleU#7266 wrote:

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Though he admits he might return someday

Yup, as expected.