is poison dead or something

looking at new ring and it looks pretty neat - 50% more dps. i know poison has dot cap, but 36mil is decent and you can invest rest of the skill points and stats into survivability. however looking at poeninja nobody uses the ring. any ideas why?

Poison is a DOT and in general DOT builds are way less popular than hit builds. POE endgame has extreme monster damage with zero visual clarity, so if a monster is alive for 2 seconds instead of 0.2 seconds, that is an eternity for the monster to rearrange your face into the ground.

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mnieradko#6070 wrote:

Poison is a DOT and in general DOT builds are way less popular than hit builds. POE endgame has extreme monster damage with zero visual clarity, so if a monster is alive for 2 seconds instead of 0.2 seconds, that is an eternity for the monster to rearrange your face into the ground.

Pretty much this. There's a big difference between 30m DoT DPS and 30m hit DPS. The latter applies and lets you kill things instantly, while DoT takes a few seconds to build up.

Also, from an SSF standpoint, as with a lot of relatively "cool" items, they drop from end game content.

So if your build is capable of engaging with end game content and beating it to get the item, then logically you don't actually need the item for your build.

As an SSF player (and I'm aware the game is not catering to me by design) this is one of my major gripes with the game's Trade focus for item attainment. By the time I can get the item, I no longer need it.

Just so you know, one of the best skills in the game, so good even racers are using it, is a poison one

poison is good, as all builds it depends on structure

got around 8-9mil dps with superb claw and mageblood on cobra lash. i guess you can quadruple the dps effectiveness of the skill and nothing bad happens.

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feral_nature#7076 wrote:

got around 8-9mil dps with superb claw and mageblood on cobra lash. i guess you can quadruple the dps effectiveness of the skill and nothing bad happens.

Inflated PoB? Cuz I have legacy claws with 60% change to deal 100% more poison damage and let me tell you, big damage IF 15 withered stacks, despair/temporal chains, 20 poison stacks recently (Noxious Strike) which gives me 2.8 seconds poison (have a bunch of faster damaging ailments), elusive at 220 and mobs at Low Life (Ambush and Assassinate/Punishment), sure I got close to 19m combined dps (17m poison dps+1.8m culling strike), but there's just too much stuff that has to align properly.

And these 19m are against normal mobs, against uber pinacles it's around 4m, and don't forget it's damage over time, and not hit damage.

And the amount of damage i'd have to sacrifice for survivability it's ludicrous, and I'd still get one shot too often.

At this point I'd be all in for any % chance to poison over 100% to count towards an additional poison stack.

Hopefully I'll be able to get my hands on that ring to run some tests.

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Aldora_the_Summoner#4021 wrote:

Also, from an SSF standpoint, as with a lot of relatively "cool" items, they drop from end game content.

So if your build is capable of engaging with end game content and beating it to get the item, then logically you don't actually need the item for your build.

As an SSF player (and I'm aware the game is not catering to me by design) this is one of my major gripes with the game's Trade focus for item attainment. By the time I can get the item, I no longer need it.

But in this case the item has a whooping 52% dropchance fom the boss, so it is actually very ssf friendly. If you don't play hc ssf you only have to be able to barely beat the boss to get a nice upgrade.