Is it just me, or do the new pinnacle bosses feel badly undertuned?

A nice change from new content being the opposite side of the tuning coin...but even basic Elder could probably land a decent hit or two if I showed him the amount of contempt and disrespect I offer the apparent mechanics the 3 new pinnacles do.

I know the uber fights arent out yet...but I'd like to at least see which attacks do something gnarly before learning them if ya feel me (I have yet to see one move my hitpoints with anything).

felt rushed i thought

I like them. Their moves are well telegraphed, no chance of unfair 1shots, no deadly hazards that slow you down then instantly kill you for being in them too long, and no stupid puzzles that will instantly kill you if you don't do them in time or don't do them correctly. It's a huge step forward from Maven and the eldritch bosses, which themselves are a leap forward from Sirus.

It gives me big hope that their uber versions will be reasonable. I mean I will expect potential 1shots to happen, but at least I'll see it coming from a mile away. Most importantly, I expect the uber versions to not melt my minions like some of the others do.

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Pizzarugi#6258 wrote:

I like them. Their moves are well telegraphed, no chance of unfair 1shots, no deadly hazards that slow you down then instantly kill you for being in them too long, and no stupid puzzles that will instantly kill you if you don't do them in time or don't do them correctly. It's a huge step forward from Maven and the eldritch bosses, which themselves are a leap forward from Sirus.

It gives me big hope that their uber versions will be reasonable. I mean I will expect potential 1shots to happen, but at least I'll see it coming from a mile away. Most importantly, I expect the uber versions to not melt my minions like some of the others do.

Its funny really. GGG makes bosses have pass/fail mechanics that 1 shot and a group complains its overtuned. They make a boss reasonable and they complain its undertuned.

If its too easy you guys could always play hc. If thats too easy then ssf is available as well.

Ofc it's easy when you use op meta builds...

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MagosX#1099 wrote:

Ofc it's easy when you use op meta builds...

"op meta builds" what you actually mean are good builds popularized by streamers, name and explain in detal how/why these builds are op that you claim

I think they are undertuned, but I like that when they get modifiers its going to make it more interesting without being overtly dumb and gives them scope to make a good Uber that isn't just a mechanic washout like others.

Having said that are they overtuned compared to eater/exarch which are equivalent? No, ball phase on exarch is harder than anything else but take that out and they are easy AF.

One thing that is currently restrictive on ubers, is penetration from the skills.

Going into uber shaper with a normal build with around 1-2m uber dps in hc without a mechanical way to avoid penetration with damage shifting is suicide unless you're just a god gamer.

The tiny intricate details of what a build has to have to survive in these environments is what annoys me. I honestly didnt care that much when you could get echoes of creation from normal shaper and you didnt have to also do t17s to do ubers.

t17s pulled a lot of fun out of hc for me. My goal in hc used to be get at least 2-3 ubers down a league and now i always build chars for t17s and rip in t17s. Or just get tired of farming for chaos to roll them. First league of t17s i ripped either 2 99s and 1 98 or 2 98s and 1 99.

As for the new bosses. I think their uber versions will probably feel a lot more fair than just screen projectile cancer in a small arena that our current ubers are.