Foulborn Whispering Ice

Dear GGG,

As a long time Icestorm enjoyer and author of (probably) the most popular Whispering Ice build, here's my feedback on the Foulborn version that was introduced in 3.27.0c:

1. Increased Area of Effect is not a good stat for Icestorm. Especially since it got 'optimized' a few years ago and limited to 5 storms. There is a limited number of icicles falling at any given time. And increasing the area only increases the spread and makes them miss the intended targets. This already makes the Foulborn version bad.

2. Trading "1% Increased Spell Damage Per 10 Intelligence" for "1% Increased Area of Effect Per 20 Intelligence" is a terrible bargain. We are trading about 30% of the damage for about 50% increased radius of the storm. This makes the Foulborn version double bad.

The current implementation of Foulborn Whispering Ice is detrimental to any build that uses Icestorm for damage.

If you want to make a good Foulborn version, replace the mod "+1 Level of Socketed Support Gems" with something useful. That mod lost most of its value when support gems got 'reworked' to have lv 21 and 22 exactly the same.

What mod would be good? "Icestorm Has +1 to Limit" (a copy of PoE 2 Overabundance Support) would be fantastic.

Thanks for listening!
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Nov 13, 2025, 6:58:09 PM
Last bumped on Nov 13, 2025, 7:33:06 PM
+1 on this! Last time I played Whispering Ice was during Bestiary league when it was niche, but actually good. The Foulborn version is a huge miss on a build that wants to reduce the AoE for better and more consistent DPS.
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Kelvynn#6607 wrote:
Dear GGG,

As a long time Icestorm enjoyer and author of (probably) the most popular Whispering Ice build, here's my feedback on the Foulborn version that was introduced in 3.27.0c:

1. Increased Area of Effect is not a good stat for Icestorm. Especially since it got 'optimized' a few years ago and limited to 5 storms. There is a limited number of icicles falling at any given time. And increasing the area only increases the spread and makes them miss the intended targets. This already makes the Foulborn version bad.

2. Trading "10% Increased Spell Damage Per 10 Intelligence" for "10 Increased Area of Effect Per 20 Intelligence" is a terrible bargain. We are trading about 30% of the damage for about 50% increased radius of the storm. This makes the Foulborn version double bad.

The current implementation of Foulborn Whispering Ice is detrimental to any build that uses Icestorm for damage.

If you want to make a good Foulborn version, replace the mod "+1 Level of Socketed Support Gems" with something useful. That mod lost most of its value when support gems got 'reworked' to have lv 21 and 22 exactly the same.

What mod would be good? "Icestorm Has +1 to Limit" (a copy of PoE 2 Overabundance Support) would be fantastic.

Thanks for listening!


1% Increased Area of Effect Per 20 Intelligence is the same mod found in pillar of the caged god and has been terrible ever since GGG changed how area of effect worked long ago so yes its a terrible mod


wish it was something like:

change the aoe increase to apply to the Icy bolts only instead of both the ice bolts and icestorm area of effect

or

+1 to socketed non-Exceptional Support Gems every 250 int

or

1% increased impact rate every "x" int

or

1% reduced aoe every "x" int for the "doom ice laser build"




Last edited by Iamterribleatnames#6579 on Nov 13, 2025, 7:34:34 PM

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