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MortalKombat3 wrote:
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DjNanos wrote:
So is my setup okay so far or should i change it?

AOE
SA - PPAD - FA - Chain - Added Fire DmG - (If i get 6l ill put LL or ICM ?)

Single Target
Frenzy - PPAD - FA - SP - Added Fire DmG - (If i get 6l ill put ICM ?)


I saw some use instead of Added fire dmg, WED. Why is that?
And i saw that some othe use as 5th link physical to lightning...
Could someone explain me the differences?.
Thanks.


Gem, that increases critical multiplier, is called "Increased Critical Damage" (ICD).

WED is good for DPS tooltip if you already put AFD or PtL or you use LA/Ice Shot. Otherwise it's BAD choice. It increased elemental damage only though, so you may need to stack more leech on gear to compensate.

PtL provides shock, which may drastically increase clear speed VS packs. Its downside is that it cuts your physical damage by half, and so does your life/mana leech (you need to stack more leech on gear to compensate).

SP (instead of AFD) grants physical damage boost, which cant be resisted and provides leech. However, some players find it uncomfortable to run with slower projectile speed.

Your setup is OK, but i'd suggested to try other options as well (full physical with SP, and shock with PtL) for your AoE skill.
And you netter go full physical with 1-target setup, as hitting 1 target doesnt provide much leech.



im sory but im kinda dumb on these,which options do you suggest for ex.?
i got 2x 5l so my single has SP AND AFD what i am asking is, what would you change on my set up?
Last edited by DjNanos on Oct 14, 2015, 11:38:44 AM
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DjNanos wrote:

im sory but im kinda dumb on these,which options do you suggest for ex.?
i got 2x 5l so my single has SP AND AFD what i am asking is, what would you change on my set up?

I'd used ICD instead of AFD.
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MortalKombat3 wrote:
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DjNanos wrote:

im sory but im kinda dumb on these,which options do you suggest for ex.?
i got 2x 5l so my single has SP AND AFD what i am asking is, what would you change on my set up?

I'd used ICD instead of AFD.


on SA and Frenzy aswell, right?.
Pros of AFD over ICD:
+ tooltip dps
+ split damage more evenly between physical and elemental, making you less vulnerable to phys reflect.
+ a red slot give some versatility. It can be changed to LgoH, WED, IIQ, etc. depending on skill used or situtation.

Cons:
- elemental damage is easier to resist than physical so the bonus on tooltip doesn't mean much
- less leech

I'd say definitely go for icd on your single target but be careful with phys reflect mobs. On AOE, ymmv.

Also consider increase crit chance instead of crit damage. Chances are it will give you the same dps bonus, but you will get more consistent crits.
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Last edited by Panini_aux_olives on Oct 15, 2015, 6:29:22 AM
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DjNanos wrote:
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MortalKombat3 wrote:
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DjNanos wrote:

im sory but im kinda dumb on these,which options do you suggest for ex.?
i got 2x 5l so my single has SP AND AFD what i am asking is, what would you change on my set up?

I'd used ICD instead of AFD.


on SA and Frenzy aswell, right?.


On Frenzy only.

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Also consider increase crit chance instead of crit damage. Chances are it will give you the same dps bonus, but you will get more consistent crits.

ICD usually gives less DPS tooltip than ICS.
But that doesnt mean it provides worse clear speed for AoE skill - usually, it's quite opposite.
i'd used neither for 5-link SA or TS, though. My choice is SP.
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Last edited by MortalKombat3 on Oct 15, 2015, 3:53:06 AM
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ICD usually gives less DPS tooltip than ICS.
I think it really depends of each one gear. But anyway the difference will be small.
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Hi all

Feeling like a beginner but having fun with this spec. Got a few exalts but unsure of what to upgrade, or if i'm doing anything terrible wrong :), any advice would be greatly appreciated.

My current gear:

Spoiler



Level 91 with ~4700hp.

/robin
Last edited by westhie on Oct 15, 2015, 11:02:14 AM
Things to change respectively(my private ranking):

1. Quvier- you should drop something twice better in 1h, or buy it for 5c or so.
2. Belt- get some rustic with hp
3. Bow- it has really low base dps plus bows have got cheaper lately.
4. Chest- mayby even most urgent but most expensive as well.

From what u craft on benches I guess you feel you don't do enough damage, so take care of it first. I'm also kinda sure that flat phys would do better job than that lighting one.


Burn all the orbs!
Last edited by skuadak on Oct 15, 2015, 11:44:02 AM
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westhie wrote:
Hi all

Feeling like a beginner but having fun with this spec. Got a few exalts but unsure of what to upgrade, or if i'm doing anything terrible wrong :), any advice would be greatly appreciated.

My current gear:

Spoiler



Level 91 with ~4700hp.

/robin


You have several unnecsary gem links.

-If you use assassin's mark, link it with coh, and either herald of ice/thunder
-Do not use enhance on your herald of ash, it increases the mana multiplier, taking more out of your mana.
-Vendor your lvl 20 increased duration along with GCP for a lvl 1, 20 quality gem.
-You don't need support gems linked to your golem, it's just there to help you boost dmg
-You have faster attack and ppad linked with herald of ash, not sure why since it does nothing.
-Get a lvl 3 enlighten gem for 2ex or something. Link it with herald + hatred.
-Since you are using TS, use your 5l set up for single target, like frenzy/puncture.
-You don't need temporal chain on your unset ring. You don't need unset ring at all actually for TS.

I might have missed some other points. Maybe someone will correct me.
IRL stuff
Last edited by Ayvi on Oct 15, 2015, 1:14:21 PM
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ICD usually gives less DPS tooltip than ICS.
I think it really depends of each one gear. But anyway the difference will be small.


Sorry, i actually meant the opposite. ICS usually gives less DPS tooltip than ICD. But ICS also gives more reliable damage (which is great VS packs), more frequent freezes/knockbacks and refills flasks quicker.
If ICS gives more (or even equal to) DPS tooltip than ICD, then ICS is no-brainer choice.
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