(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™

I've been running a similar build as a duelist with the old tree, champion ascendancy (permanent fortify). I am looking for some help on mana issues and avoiding using blood magic if possible.

I am not using blood magic. I rely on warlord's mark and high damage to leech mana. This works very well in packs, and if I am able to keep a tight circle/continuous hits on bosses.

However, I run into problems if I miss the boss, or if I have the infamous cyclone terrain issue. I only have 93 mana after reserving for hatred/warlord+blasphemy.

Any potential solutions for this, without having to waste a gem on blood magic support? Max mana? Mana regen? Mana leech? Any potential items or passives that would be easily obtained/reached? Would simply linking Enlighten to hatred/curse+blasphemy solve my issue with mana?

I absolutely love the playstyle of this build, it's very fun for clearing packs, but just trying to optimize it for end-game boss fights if possible.

Thanks for keeping this thread so updated, Lighty!

Hi , i follow your build since i start the game and i love it . I'm lvl 63 so real thing come now ^^
But I feel i don't have engouht move speed .(+34% with haste)(-10% cause marohi erqi)
Do you have any tips for me to improve this plz ?
By the way : thanks a lot to enhance the build and prepare for 3.0 :)


EDIT : and i take juggernaut so i get the +14% move from.

whats your recommendation for 3.0? im starting the beta as soon as it downloads lol

Im guessing in 3.0 Oak is probably the best bandit choice for this build in HC?

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SexualAssault wrote:

Im guessing in 3.0 Oak is probably the best bandit choice for this build in HC?

Kraityn is a much better choice for Cyclone - Movespeed is king, IAS is stronger than IPD, and you should already have quite a bit of life regen.

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SexualAssault wrote:

Im guessing in 3.0 Oak is probably the best bandit choice for this build in HC?

OAK is weakest bandit reward :( mby they will buff him on 3.0

Which of the 3 starter classes would people recommend for somebody new to the build?

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slimweebs wrote:

However, I run into problems if I miss the boss, or if I have the infamous cyclone terrain issue. I only have 93 mana after reserving for hatred/warlord+blasphemy.

If you want to be able to sustain without hitting anything or on 1 target, you're going to need to either get Elreon Rings or invest in mana regen (or both), or use blood magic. There's no way around that, really. The only other options are to use gimmicks (trickster for example)

For crit cyclone, which needs a link for Increased Critical Strikes gem, I always pick up 40-100% mana regeneration. To this end, the Mana flows near duelist is great, and Lighty did mention it a few time for Mana.

Cyclone is a mana beast, thats why blood magic support is used in starter builds.

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Archimtiros wrote:

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SexualAssault wrote:

Im guessing in 3.0 Oak is probably the best bandit choice for this build in HC?

Kraityn is a much better choice for Cyclone - Movespeed is king, IAS is stronger than IPD, and you should already have quite a bit of life regen.

Totally in agreement with Archimitiros for non-crit. Oak is really weak, it should be 4% phys reduction at least to match Soul of Steel. Maybe they'll buff Oak during beta.

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Which of the 3 starter classes would people recommend for somebody new to the build?

Depends on your play style really.

Movement focused (lazy): Raider

Movement focused (not lazy): Pathfinder

Damage focused: Beserker

Defensive: Juggernaut

Leech and AOE focused: Slayer

Versatility or want to use a hipster gem setup: Champion (swapping out fortify for stuff like Physical to Lightning, Melee damage on full life as a mana-based cycloner, etc.)

If you play casually and have low-end or medium-end gear I think Slayer is the best choice right now since the leech really makes up for a lot of gear weakness while giving 20% cull on bosses which is fantastic. I find at upper echelons of gear, when you push, damage is fine and defense starts to matter... this is where I prefer Juggernaut with lots of layers of defense (i.e, with Verusos and Deaths Door and Unbreakable jugg can achieve freeze, shock, stun and bleed immunity without flasks).

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Shymia wrote:

Hi , i follow your build since i start the game and i love it . I'm lvl 63 so real thing come now ^^
But I feel i don't have engouht move speed .(+34% with haste)(-10% cause marohi erqi)
Do you have any tips for me to improve this plz ?
By the way : thanks a lot to enhance the build and prepare for 3.0 :)


EDIT : and i take juggernaut so i get the +14% move from.

if you're playing it on Standard, spend 1 chaos and buy a Hezmana's bloodlust and drop the Marohi. Also, personally, I cant play cyclone without using Devotos Devotion on my helm slot. Also pick up the Axe node SLAUGHTER when you drop the mace nodes. That will give you Onslaught on kill helping your speed greatly.

Ok thanks a lot ! But i go loose lot of dps to drop Marohi for Hezmaman's no ?

Hi Lighty, which bandit is the best choice in 3.0 beta?