Hey folks,
was hoping to get some insight here, i've been running Hezmana's for the last 10 levels or so, and its been great. have about 22k dps on the tooltip for cyclone.
Yesterday I made the switch over to Veruso's and bought my Spooky Tentacle (Tidebreaker), keep in mind both my Tidebreaker and my Hezmana are only 4L, but it was a massive DPS decrease and I wasn't particularly additionally tanky with my perma endurance charges. It actually seemed if anything my survivability was slightly /higher/ with Hezmana's (on bosses) because i was leaching so much more with the axe. Anyone have any ideas as to what i'm doing wrong or missing? I feel like its something obvious but i'd like some perspective.
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Posted byCaldenSkeet#3740on Aug 18, 2017, 11:37:51 AM
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OberstGruber wrote:
Hi there!
Quick question: Following this Build as Jugger - doing very well in T8-9 Maps. Everything fine.
Will do UberLab sone, allready have Unstoppable, Unrelenting (and Unfliching)...
Should i REALY pick Unbreakable next? Dont feel any need of more armor, def, etc. ... would UNDENIABLE be better? Would get a lot of Attack Speed imo. Would be near 14% AS = more Damage, more Leech, etc.
Thanks for helping me!
it depends on your chest plate, basically. if you have a low armour plate such as a belly of the beast, the fortify node is better. if you have 1.5k armour chest like a decent astral plate, the double armour is better.
it is worth noting that perfect stun immunity is also kinda nice, though, even if you have not much armour from chest.
Ok thx, but is fortify woth linking in a 5 or 6 socket? Thought it would be a damage lost?
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Posted byOberstGruber#2503on Aug 18, 2017, 11:52:38 AM
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EvanEyolf wrote:
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EvanEyolf wrote:
So after leveling a pizza sticks im really thinking about going back to cyclone, for my play style it is hard to beat the ability to do damage on the move and never really slow down, I know there are faster clear speed builds but I don't really like the jerky game play of stop and go.
I made my first real attempt at end game under breach league and started with Lightys guide then Moprhed it in to a Berserker Ngamahu fire build with vaal pac. With a lot of trial and error I got to a point were I could easily do 90% of the content and with some effort could have done the other 10% only thing I didn't do was guardians and sharper which was mostly do to lack of boss fight knowledge I only attempted them once . My one and only complaint was the unavoidable insta kills. With all of the 3.0 changes I have been thinking about giving cyclone another go.
with the 3.0 How do you think it compares with Ngamahu flame version as far as clear speed and boss killing goes?
I'm thinking of going Jug this time just for the defense. but I had some thoughts
How do think this would do if you went zerker and picked MoM instead of vaal pact or with?
It would give 30% dam reduction and with zerk you could heal the mana instantly with Ngahamu I never felt like I needed the damage I think I only took maybe 3 or 4 damage nodes that weren't on the way to something I wanted even on every thing but named mobs and bosses every thing died before the flame balls hit the ground.
on the jug side what about taken more bleeding damage in the tree also what about fitting ruthless in with cyclone hitting so fast you can get a lot ruthless ticks in which increases both instant and bleeding dam?
Im trying to figure out how to balance damage of Zerk with the defense of Jug
I have no issue sacrificing kill speed for survivablity at least with in reason. My thought is I can do more for cheaper with jugg even if takes longer to kill
so I tested MoM out. I don't recommend it we don't have enough mana/manaregen to make it worth while it worked ok for spike damage so long as you were already leaching but constant damage after cyclone ended made it so you could not recast. I died twice before I speced out of it. If I get bored I will respec out of beserker and into jug just to see how it feels its now a standard league char I dont really care about costs
I'm doing a MoM cycloner this league and it's working well. 7,7k life, 1200 unreserved mana. Due to the boss hp changes I wanted a character with sustainability and not being reliant on flasks. My solution was a scion raider/slayer going full phys so I could get away with just vulnerability as aura. This way I have perm frenzy charges/onslaught, gearing is cheap because we don't need accuracy or elemental damage and I have good lifereg and leech to sustain longer/tougher encounters. Just make sure to get jewels with mana leech (I had 2 but 1 is sufficient now) and some mana reg on rings/amulet. Also the lab enchant for life/mana reg is super important. I'm still keeping leap slam on blood magic so I can escape if I go oom though.
Feel free to check it out. I just bought my Starforge but I did down all Guardians with a 5-link cyclone and a 470pDps rare axe.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I went Scion because of the 5 extra passive points, making MoM more affordable skillpoint-wise.
Last edited by varkotix#1377 on Aug 18, 2017, 12:42:59 PM
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Posted byvarkotix#1377on Aug 18, 2017, 12:26:49 PM
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Berserker or juggernaut for this build ? :/
What's the best ?
Berserker seems to be better, no ?
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Posted byKeerzah#1172on Aug 18, 2017, 4:09:33 PM
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Loosely following this build & downed uber lab last night 3x in a row. For first time doing uber lab feeling safe. Typically, I want to get in and get out as soon as possible but with this build I didn't want to leave and wanted to explore all areas. One run I got 7 keys, which is a first for me as well. Definitely room for improvement but so far having a blast. Currently running T11\12 maps no issues.
Thanks
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Posted byhitmansnbr1#2669on Aug 18, 2017, 6:38:40 PM
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hitmansnbr1 wrote:
Loosely following this build & downed uber lab last night 3x in a row. For first time doing uber lab feeling safe. Typically, I want to get in and get out as soon as possible but with this build I didn't want to leave and wanted to explore all areas. One run I got 7 keys, which is a first for me as well. Definitely room for improvement but so far having a blast. Currently running T11\12 maps no issues.
Thanks
I noticed you are using hezmana and a 6L cyclone with no elemental damage. Is there any unique weapon better than hezmana? I'm not rich so I can't buy items that cost 30+ chaos. Also, is pure physical better than elemental (added fire + herald of ash + hatred)?
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Posted byallukaz#7008on Aug 18, 2017, 7:14:53 PM
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If you want more dps as a jugg get the + 1000 accuracy ascendancy instead of the move speed one, with small investment I'm getting 45% inc attack speed which scales really well with cyclones 50% more attack speed modifier and can drop RT because chance to hit is 94% saving a point, letting you evade reflect and giving 5% chit chance for shock
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Posted byDutchRudder#4293on Aug 18, 2017, 7:47:09 PM
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Hey Guys. I started playing last Sunday so i am pretty new to the Game. Today i reached Lvl81.
My question: What Gear do i buy first? Is a 6L recommended first? Do i get a Chest or a Wep as a 6L?
Currently i have only around 60ish Chaos. My current Gear seems pretty bad.
My Characterprofile if needed: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Pure89/characters
Would love, if you could help a Newcomer out. :)
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Posted byPure89#1963on Aug 18, 2017, 8:18:47 PM
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Pure89 wrote:
Hey Guys. I started playing last Sunday so i am pretty new to the Game. Today i reached Lvl81.
My question: What Gear do i buy first? Is a 6L recommended first? Do i get a Chest or a Wep as a 6L?
Currently i have only around 60ish Chaos. My current Gear seems pretty bad.
My Characterprofile if needed: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Pure89/characters
Would love, if you could help a Newcomer out. :)
Your char profile is set to private. Else it is much cheaper and quicker to get a 6l body armour than a good weapon that is 6l. Astral plates are relatively cheap (cause of 6x set Celestial Justicar div cards that sell for 25-30c). So you should be able to get a 6l astral which can provide good life, res and armour with decent stats to get you rolling. Else you could look into a 6l corrupted armour that fits your gem colors, can often get quite a good one for relatively cheap until you get something better.
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Posted byRidman#0986on Aug 18, 2017, 8:52:15 PM
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Ridman wrote:
Your char profile is set to private. Else it is much cheaper and quicker to get a 6l body armour than a good weapon that is 6l. Astral plates are relatively cheap (cause of 6x set Celestial Justicar div cards that sell for 25-30c). So you should be able to get a 6l astral which can provide good life, res and armour with decent stats to get you rolling. Else you could look into a 6l corrupted armour that fits your gem colors, can often get quite a good one for relatively cheap until you get something better.
My Profile is no longer set to private. Thanks for your Answer i will look into it and try to find a 6l Chest.
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Posted byPure89#1963on Aug 19, 2017, 4:01:17 AM
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