{3.0} Necronomicon / Raise Spectre Monster Info...[The Unofficial Minion Wiki]

Off 3.0.1c patch notes: Lunar Devotees now only summon one Ice Elemental at a time, but these are now tougher and do a more powerful explosion on death.

Doubt these guys were ever considered to be useful to raise in the past, but maybe worth looking into now? Though I got a feeling unless there's some scaling on their Ice Elementals to also work with global minion damage, it won't mean much if anything at all.

Ok, so I have some news on Kitava's Herald, and by extension, maybe something about the problems some of us have with any Act6+ mobs.

Through testing with some guys on reddit we actually found out that the Act 10 version of Kitava's Heralds are bugged in a way that won't let them get added to the Desecration table. Making the whole thing a lottery until you get some Heretic mobs from A5/A10. However, if you raise the Herald from Act 5 instead, it is extremely easy to desecrate Heralds on maps. I already desecrated them on the first try on Shaped Phantasmagoria (T9), Port (T10), Underground River (T10), Shaped Mesa (T10) and Wastelands (T11) and I suspect there are many more maps to come.

So get your Herald from Act 5 instead and you will have a very easy time getting your map-level Heralds! I already submitted a bug report to the forums. Now seeing what is holding the Heralds back, I have the sneaking suspicion that this is what is causing people to have issues with Frost Sentinels as well.

This is going to be a long post...

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Mokihiki wrote:

I think you got this backwards or I'm misunderstanding or misinformed. Most minions have 40 ele and 20 chaos res as of patch 2.5.0. (Golems have a bit more resistance towards their aligned damage type).

Spectres however just have whatever they had as enemies and most enemies have high resistance to just one element and no resistance to the rest or low general elemental resistance, usually lower than 40%. Generally speaking, I'd say it's harder to cap spectre resistance than for example zombie reistance.

Oh shit yes. Your right. I was thinking about pre 2.5.0 values =/. Also thanks for making victario's charity you made my minion builds op lol.

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- Totems and all other minions now have 40% elemental resistance and 20% chaos resistance. This also includes minions that didn't have resistances previously, like wolves.
- Fire, Cold, and Lightning Golems now have 70% resistance to their respective element. Chaos Golems now have 60% resistance to Chaos.
- Raise Spectre now grants +30% elemental resistances to its minions.

so rs already starts with 70% all resistances. Other minions starts with 40%. They all have 20% chaoa res at least.

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reciprocate wrote:

Mind linking the reddit thread? Also I figure this means if possible one can try to do a crit build for at least Frost Sentinels as they got the highest listed at 7% base chance?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/6wh2yi/spectre_experiments_ep1_frost_sentinels/.

Yes this means with 3 power charges and iCrit support gem, Frost sentinels will have a 72% chance to crit. Add in immortalis + diamond flask and they crit 100% of the time. Essentially turning iCrit into a 130% multiplier. Only problem is getting pcharges on bosses maybe with Malachai's loop.

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Casmiel wrote:

Ok, so I have some news on Kitava's Herald, and by extension, maybe something about the problems some of us have with any Act6+ mobs.

Through testing with some guys on reddit we actually found out that the Act 10 version of Kitava's Heralds are bugged in a way that won't let them get added to the Desecration table. Making the whole thing a lottery until you get some Heretic mobs from A5/A10. However, if you raise the Herald from Act 5 instead, it is extremely easy to desecrate Heralds on maps. I already desecrated them on the first try on Shaped Phantasmagoria (T9), Port (T10), Underground River (T10), Shaped Mesa (T10) and Wastelands (T11) and I suspect there are many more maps to come.

So get your Herald from Act 5 instead and you will have a very easy time getting your map-level Heralds! I already submitted a bug report to the forums. Now seeing what is holding the Heralds back, I have the sneaking suspicion that this is what is causing people to have issues with Frost Sentinels as well.

Yes, with this post and my own findings I think we finally connected the dot. There are some act6+ monsters out there that do not work well with the desecration trick. Kitava's herald from Act 10 is one of those and frost sentinels from act 8.

This is why every time someone mentions they found frost sentinels easily it is because they already summoned a frost sentinel from a map, and those do work with the desecration table.

For those that did find frost sentinels. Which zone did you initially summon them from? Lunaris concourse, Lunaris temple, lunaris temple 2, or habour bridge?

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reciprocate wrote:

Off 3.0.1c patch notes: Lunar Devotees now only summon one Ice Elemental at a time, but these are now tougher and do a more powerful explosion on death.

Doubt these guys were ever considered to be useful to raise in the past, but maybe worth looking into now? Though I got a feeling unless there's some scaling on their Ice Elementals to also work with global minion damage, it won't mean much if anything at all.

I'm not sure but i'll test these guys again. Normally minions of minions will not get any stats.

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mattc3303 wrote:

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- Totems and all other minions now have 40% elemental resistance and 20% chaos resistance. This also includes minions that didn't have resistances previously, like wolves.
- Fire, Cold, and Lightning Golems now have 70% resistance to their respective element. Chaos Golems now have 60% resistance to Chaos.
- Raise Spectre now grants +30% elemental resistances to its minions.

so rs already starts with 70% all resistances. Other minions starts with 40%. They all have 20% chaoa res at least.

Oh damn I totally blanked on the raise spectre gem itself granting ele res lol. Pretty sure spectres where excluded from the "minions have 40% ele res and 20% chaos res" change but I couldn't find a source for it so idk :(

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mattc3303 wrote:

Also thanks for making victario's charity you made my minion builds op lol.

lol np
Speaking of op, there was a time in the design process where it would also grant endurance charges :P

Update:

- revamped the minion resistance section.
- Added a few more locations of spectre
- Added additional information regarding frosties, solar guard, fire-eaters
- Added the details regarding frost sentinel and kitva herald desecration (Thanks Casmiel)

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Mokihiki wrote:

Oh damn I totally blanked on the raise spectre gem itself granting ele res lol. Pretty sure spectres where excluded from the "minions have 40% ele res and 20% chaos res" change but I couldn't find a source for it so idk :(

You might be right here. The wording does say "all other minions" and its below the spectre comment. But who really knows when it comes to obscure GiGiGi patch notes lol.

I have been making humanoid low level maps (seems to roll humanoid mor eoften on low tier)

and getting cannibals fire eaters then going into a 13+ map and desing them 100% of the time

my set up has them doing 900k+ dps normal mobs 500k+ boss mobs WITHOUT animate G buffs each

minion on single target

almost 4mil on normal mobs and 2 mil on bosses

Just spanking every boss I find

I toss on GMP instead of slower proj for clearing
PoB link
https://pastebin.com/i5bpjjMp


and matt i wiped my tree and basically using your exact tree but less str nodes (got more on my gear)

lol yeah the single target on fire eaters is crazy.

https://pastebin.com/PdfJ03sr

This is with shaper/guardian selected on a immortalis belt build with all flasks up. Per minion so roughly 6.7million dps total.

I searched all over part one act 3

and could not find any frostys

seems sarn area in part 1 is still almost exactly the same as in 2.6.0 and same monster types

but not a single frosty in the campaign in part 1

sucks but getting lunar even on low tier maps is horrid

I'd get like 10 humanoid and 15 more variety before I'd see one Lunar fanatics roll

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mattc3303 wrote:

lol yeah the single target on fire eaters is crazy.

https://pastebin.com/PdfJ03sr

This is with shaper/guardian selected on a immortalis belt build with all flasks up. Per minion so roughly 6.7million dps total.

Did you use echo in this setup? I'm still not sure if echo works on fire-eater... (works on PoB)