[3.5] Say_Ten's Melee Shadow - Murder Everything Cheaply

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Xzandro wrote:
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Say_Ten wrote:

As for another 4L setup, depends on how much you want to micromanage shit, but I usually recommend Ancestral Warchief. You could also use Protector. Support with similar gems and you'll have buffs, aggro and a minion that's doing a lot of damage.


I dont mind micromanaging things, but it cant be an active skill. Dual Strike, Ice Golem, Lightning Strike, Whirling Blades, Blood Rage, Herald of Ash, Hatred, Vaal Haste. And I dont think Totems will work well with Cast when Damage taken right? :/ Hmm...


Why can't it be an active skill?
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First and foremost a big thank you for this build!

I'm currently level 51 and enjoying myself quite a lot. First time playing a crit build and boy oh boy is it better than everything else I played with Resolute Technique.

I like that you can't facetank everything (can you anything? :D ) and that you have to be active all the time. The Abyss monsters are always a very nice challenge. Generally I am much more involved in the game and it has awoken a new fire in me :D

However, one thing I am not fond of, and basically because of the visuals and fps impact - lightning strike.

So I was wondering OP could you give me any advice on switching from LS to Frost Blades? The visuals are nicer, less of a mess on screen, sounds better etc.
Right now I have FB linked with the same 3 gems as LS. Bit less damage but still strong.

Every other gem combination is set up as per your guidelines (without BoR and still working on a 6-link chest).

Thank you!


you got it dude. i prefer LS because you can spam it from across the screen and with a helm enchant it can still pierce. i don't love the way FB feels but you can support it the same exact way (Multistrike, CoH, Assasin's Mark). If you want it to be your main skill, put it in your BoR and swap ruthless for weapon elemental damage or whatever they are calling it now. actually with the conversion, ruthless might even work fine.
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MCJR wrote:
Playing through Abyss League, I'm kind of hitting a wall, but it's probably moreso due to my build. Normal monsters are easy, but rares can sometimes be a bit of a hassle and bosses I usually have to zerg rush and die (Doedre was the worst, lost ~50% XP at level 58 because I didn't know about valve turning and the balls one-shot me).

The Abyss monsters are also quite annoying.


if you make your characters public i can see what you're doing and help better
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Thoughts on Ahn's might with a pacifism jewel instead of using claws?


i can't see the wiki right now but guessing the base crit chance isn't high enough to make the "free" mutli worth it. plus you can get that much multi and more stats from two jewels, so personally i don't think i would ever use it.
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Say_Ten wrote:

Why can't it be an active skill?


I mean, in theory it can. I need to activate my auras and switch the skill then I guess. Dont know if its worth it everytime, haha. :)
Awesome build! Currently level 46, very enjoyable.
I have a question. Can I use Blade Flurry in this build?
Any viable swords for this build?
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Xzandro wrote:
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Say_Ten wrote:

Why can't it be an active skill?


I mean, in theory it can. I need to activate my auras and switch the skill then I guess. Dont know if its worth it everytime, haha. :)


lol, well that's part of what i meant by having to micromanage things. you shouldn't be dying often so realistically you can put hatred and HoA on and then swap those skills out. golem dies often enough that i wouldn't move that one.
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lulin220 wrote:
Awesome build! Currently level 46, very enjoyable.
I have a question. Can I use Blade Flurry in this build?


thought that was in the FAQ but maybe not since it was only very big when it first came out. yes, you can swap dual strike for blade flurry. also get rid of multistrike and add a different complimentary gem such as Inc AOE or Conc Effect. also you wouldn't need Might and Influence.
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dgmsti2012 wrote:
Any viable swords for this build?


i had a UGM 2007 STI LTD, #407/800. sup.

also, yeah, as long as you take care of potential leech issues, you can use rapiers with implicit crit multi that have high crit chance and additional crit multi and at least 300pdps. rare swords, that is.

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