Chaos damage and why it hurts the game in it's current form.

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ziggro wrote:


-1 your fanboy level is too damn high and u didnt explained y i am wrong.


I don't play with dull blades. Fanboys do. I'm not dull, I'm sharp about this game. I can appear egocentric and arrogant at times, but that's simply not true. I'm confident and passionate. And people don't seem to understand the critical difference between the two. I said you were wrong because people are accomplishing what you aren't. Therefore it's your problem - not the game's.
You will never see a man faking anger, passion and relentless behavior.

You will always see a man faking love, politeness and respectful behavior.
Last edited by Deceptionist#1813 on Feb 18, 2013, 11:30:41 AM
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Deceptionist wrote:
Ahh, but my clueless friend, you have no idea how backwards society and humanity is. I'm not the condescending one here. It's the people who think they can complain and only agree with their close-minded viewpoints, whilst a small number of people out there live as the very contradictions. Then when one of those people from the small group meet up with a person they contradict, the contradicted person raises a red flag and acts in the same way as you did. ''OMG. YOU ARE DISPROVING ME. I MUST MAKE UP NEGATIVE IMPRESSIONS TO SAVE MY PETTY PRIDE!''. I am very familiar with the human race. Nothing you say bothers me, which is why I'm not condescending. I'm brutally honest. I'm passionate. I'm just as human as you, but like everything in this world, some things are stronger than others. In this case, I have more information and knowledge about what is and what isn't in this game. You don't. You're young, naive and vastly precarious about the deeply rooted complexities of a game you clearly don't have even the surface figured out.


Complain? It's more like constructive criticism. There is no kicking and screaming on my end. Every single serious suggestion I make is in a calm, collected, polite manner. Always.

By the way, you haven't disproved anything. To try to convince yourself you're right, you recommended I go watch some videos that are not relevant to the current state of the game. And you claiming you have more knowledge about this game than me is totally contradicted by this fact. Why would someone with a lot of knowledge use outmoded information in support of their argument? They wouldn't.

Again, you're not good at dealing with people.
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TechnoMage wrote:

TL;DR
Chaos damage is broken, you cannot avoid taking it and the only way to survive is Chaos Innoculation or life stacking. This is hurting build diversity, please fix.

Chaos resistance does wonders against chaos damage.
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BlowFish wrote:


What a load of bollocks. Still as a diligent student of the game you will realise what it is and what it is not for yourself before too long. Fortunate as this 'argument' is so full of logical fallacy and muddled thinking that you won't get there by deduction.


It isn't bollocks, really. Maybe according to how you perceived it, but in all actuality it's certainly not.

Tell me how people's accomplishments being cross-referenced to what people are claiming is a logical fallacy. Please, the pieces fit. Why don't you tell me how they do not fit instead of throwing a fit.
You will never see a man faking anger, passion and relentless behavior.

You will always see a man faking love, politeness and respectful behavior.
I dont agree with OP, but nonetheless its honest feedback.

Yes lifestacking as is has become too common imo, but potential for build diversity has not been reduced because of this, there is a diffrence.
On one hand you can stack life and reduce the difficulty of the game, which most people want, but there is nothing in this game that stops you from making a wacky (well thought out) build and not succeed. Yes it is more difficult and in some cases that has its place, but a beta is a beta and this will ofcourse change over time, for godssakes they plan to add 50 gems this year...i would worry less on how the game is right now and more on what might break it in the future.
Not to undermine the current state chaos damage, but instead of nerfing it i feel more dynamic options are in place.

I will be damned if one of thoose 50 gems doesnt involve this issue in any way.
Last edited by foleylantz#0283 on Feb 18, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
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jimi89 wrote:


Complain? It's more like constructive criticism. There is no kicking and screaming on my end. Every single serious suggestion I make is in a calm, collected, polite manner. Always.

By the way, you haven't disproved anything. To try to convince yourself you're right, you recommended I go watch some videos that are not relevant to the current state of the game. And you claiming you have more knowledge about this game than me is totally contradicted by this fact. Why would someone with a lot of knowledge use outmoded information in support of their argument? They wouldn't.

Again, you're not good at dealing with people.


1) You're complaining. Don't try to pull the ''I'm being rational and calm'' card. It doesn't work on me. Don't make me start quoting your disasterous claims.

2) I'm not the one who is disproving you. I'm revealing the fact that others are disproving you. See? I'm not condescending. I admit that I didn't discover builds that thwart your complaints. Others did. I'm simply using them to defend my argument against your pussyfooting.

3) People aren't good at dealing with the truth. Thus I'm not good at dealing with people only when people feel ''offended''. I know how to deal with people. My intent isn't to offend anyone. It's not my fault that people have grown so soft, precarious and lazy in today's era. It's all hypocrisy, really.

People only care and respect others when they are in their comfort zone. I, on the other hand, care for the people whether I am in my comfort zone or not. That's what makes me what I am.
You will never see a man faking anger, passion and relentless behavior.

You will always see a man faking love, politeness and respectful behavior.
Last edited by Deceptionist#1813 on Feb 18, 2013, 11:39:29 AM
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Deceptionist wrote:
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ziggro wrote:


-1 your fanboy level is too damn high and u didnt explained y i am wrong.


I don't play with dull blades. Fanboys do. I'm not dull, I'm sharp about this game. I can appear egocentric and arrogant at times, but that's simply not true. I'm confident and passionate. And people don't seem to understand the critical difference between the two. I said you were wrong because people are accomplishing what you aren't. Therefore it's your problem - not the game's.

yeah we all can stack chaos resist dude, the OP is talking about build diversity, and u arent, and yes u r a fanboy, one of the big ones, and fanboys like you only hurt the game, did u play closed beta? no right, then please leave this to people who know the game.

and the only thing i said was that CI was broken with the chaos dmg beeing weak before OB. How can some1 accomplish that O.o
Last edited by ziggro#7495 on Feb 18, 2013, 11:38:52 AM
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ReZar wrote:
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TechnoMage wrote:

TL;DR
Chaos damage is broken, you cannot avoid taking it and the only way to survive is Chaos Innoculation or life stacking. This is hurting build diversity, please fix.

Chaos resistance does wonders against chaos damage.


It does, but the passive nodes that give Chaos resistance are too few and too far separated.

Look at this way, on merciless you get -60% to all elemental and chaos damage. But Elemental resistance nodes are plentiful and come in clusters, normally with a +6% to all elemental resists followed by two individual +15s. There are also many passives that give +10% to all elemental resistances for a total of +30% from a single passive.

Chaos resistance on the other hand has a single unique 16% passive, and then just 3 or 4 8% nodes all of which are spread out all over the passive tree.

You also have easy access to +30 elemental resistance rings, and also +12% prismatic rings. You dont have easy access to such rings or gear that boost Chaos resistance by that amount.
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Chaos damage is a issue, because most people are a) to stupid to change resi gear and b) to fine, to switch there yellow gold ring of greed to a blue coral ring with chaos resi and hp.
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Deceptionist wrote:
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BlowFish wrote:


What a load of bollocks. Still as a diligent student of the game you will realise what it is and what it is not for yourself before too long. Fortunate as this 'argument' is so full of logical fallacy and muddled thinking that you won't get there by deduction.


It isn't bollocks, really. Maybe according to how you perceived it, but in all actuality it's certainly not.

Tell me how people's accomplishments being cross-referenced to what people are claiming is a logical fallacy. Please, the pieces fit. Why don't you tell me how they do not fit instead of throwing a fit.


Everysingle thing about you and what you type is 100% pure bollocks. It would be better if you just went away, you seriously have no clue whatsoever about anything to do with this game.
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