[3.17] The Warchief | [Facebreaker] Ancestral Warchief | Uber Boss Farmer | Beginner -> Expert

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Shinaides wrote:

how good do you guys think bringer of rain would do in this build ? It feels like a cheaper and safer version of abyssus. Granting less damage indeed but the abyssus version has such astronomic dps i wonder if it is a prroblem at all

safer without armor ? imo i dont like BoR very much. i never tried it so i dont know if its a good alternative

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LTU_Edga wrote:

With your defense setup (reckless jewels) you did only T15_Core map? All other maps was with rare jewels?

Also I guess its possible for you to shoot frenzy and get frenzy charges for extra damage on your totems.

yes i used the "defense version" only for t15 core

how would you get frenzy charges with ur totems? btw i dont think they are needed

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Shinaides wrote:

how good do you guys think bringer of rain would do in this build ? It feels like a cheaper and safer version of abyssus. Granting less damage indeed but the abyssus version has such astronomic dps i wonder if it is a prroblem at all

i have tested Bringer of rain. you get a bit more life. and the armour you dont get from your chest . is made up for by not taking 40% increased phys damage.
My guy in testing did 70k with increased area and over 100k with conc effect.
and i ran a few atziri runs with it no probem.
I will probably use Bringer of rain for a long time until i get currency for abyssus and a good chest armour.
Just get a few chromes.. the Bringer is hard to colour for RRRB. i often got RRBG. and just added poison into the set up.

In the long run. you want astronomic dps.. it's the thing that keeps you safe.

@guggelhupf
Have you ever tried to fit in a move skill like shield charge or flame dash?
Or do you feel ok just normal running around?

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p4ttch wrote:

@guggelhupf
Have you ever tried to fit in a move skill like shield charge or flame dash?
Or do you feel ok just normal running around?

i dont need a "movement skill" atm and when im realy in trouble i hit my quicksilver ;) btw i also dont have free gem slots in my setup, so im fine with it ;)

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guggelhupf wrote:

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LTU_Edga wrote:

With your defense setup (reckless jewels) you did only T15_Core map? All other maps was with rare jewels?

Also I guess its possible for you to shoot frenzy and get frenzy charges for extra damage on your totems.

yes i used the "defense version" only for t15 core

how would you get frenzy charges with ur totems? btw i dont think they are needed

There is "Frenzy" skill and I checked you can use it while unarmed. It gets charges on hit.
But yeah as you said they are not needed. Maybe in extra mob hp maps for faster killing or so.

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LTU_Edga wrote:

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guggelhupf wrote:

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LTU_Edga wrote:

With your defense setup (reckless jewels) you did only T15_Core map? All other maps was with rare jewels?

Also I guess its possible for you to shoot frenzy and get frenzy charges for extra damage on your totems.

yes i used the "defense version" only for t15 core

how would you get frenzy charges with ur totems? btw i dont think they are needed

There is "Frenzy" skill and I checked you can use it while unarmed. It gets charges on hit.
But yeah as you said they are not needed. Maybe in extra mob hp maps for faster killing or so.

i know the skill :D , but do u also get the charges with "ancestral bond" because u dont do any dmg with it

Planning on using this for the start of essence league coming up if warchief doesn't get nerfed to dust for some reasons and was wondering what would be your tips / skills to use untill you can get facebreaker? I was thinking earthquake would be the best with a 2hand but if you got better alternative I'd love to hear them.

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Wyra wrote:

Planning on using this for the start of essence league coming up if warchief doesn't get nerfed to dust for some reasons and was wondering what would be your tips / skills to use untill you can get facebreaker? I was thinking earthquake would be the best with a 2hand but if you got better alternative I'd love to hear them.

i think the best options are as you said, earthquake with 2 hand together with the warchief and shield charge (until u get "ancestral bond" ofc). i played this way the 48h solo HC league until merciless mid game without any problems

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guggelhupf wrote:

i know the skill :D , but do u also get the charges with "ancestral bond" because u dont do any dmg with it

"Ancestral bond" says that you cant deal damage, but you can still launch spells and hit enemies. For frenzy charges you need only to hit enemy to get charge. Your totems gets +4% attack speed and damage per charge since your buffs transfers to totems too. It needs to be tested with build to be sure. Maybe that bonus is not even worth for replacing instead of other links