[3.17] The Warchief | [Facebreaker] Ancestral Warchief | Uber Boss Farmer | Beginner -> Expert

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inchy97 wrote:

Hey gug,

Really love this guide. Planning on going into the hardcore league with it. I am a bit concerned with the berserker ascendancy and ~150%
Max life in the tree, not sure if I will have enough defenses. I see this has a ton of block, does that offset the high life %? Or is there things I can do to increase my defenses.

Thanks!

to increase the defense u can run another shield (maybe a rare with high armor), spec some dmg out of the tree for more life, run some reckless defense jewels or some rares with %life too. but thats only few ideas, i never playd HC and will not do it, so you should testing a bit around in standard maybe ;)

edit: and because i play with a belly the %Life is at "193%" (153+40)

btw: you could use a tree like this, you would get +31% life, but loose a lot of dmg (but should still have enough for most content [+ the new steel rings]) + 4 jewels with 7% life it should give you 59% so u would have all together "262%Life" (+10% meginord belt) wich should be enough i think :D (~7k)

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guggelhupf wrote:

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inchy97 wrote:

Hey gug,

Really love this guide. Planning on going into the hardcore league with it. I am a bit concerned with the berserker ascendancy and ~150%
Max life in the tree, not sure if I will have enough defenses. I see this has a ton of block, does that offset the high life %? Or is there things I can do to increase my defenses.

Thanks!

to increase the defense u can run another shield (maybe a rare with high armor), spec some dmg out of the tree for more life, run some reckless defense jewels or some rares with %life too. but thats only few ideas, i never playd HC and will not do it, so you should testing a bit around in standard maybe ;)

edit: and because i play with a belly the %Life is at "193%" (153+40)

btw: you could use a tree like this, you would get +31% life, but loose a lot of dmg (but should still have enough for most content)

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don't forget about Meginord's Girdle which gives you another 10% max life.

Why do you use dmg on full life... Dont you always take a little dmg so the gem link is useless??

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DillzMaster wrote:

Why do you use dmg on full life... Dont you always take a little dmg so the gem link is useless??

if u get hit and press ur warcry your most of the time instant full life again. so maybe 3/10 hits are without full life wich is still good. and if u have a good movement and care about ur char u have a nearly 100% uptime of the gem ;)

...because u dont need to stand near the monsters ;) u can watch ur totems do the job

Okay but how much damage loss w/o legacy and w/o voidheart are we roughly talking about in 2.4? As in, can we likely still run all the hard engame content (uber atziri, vinktar, double T15, etc) with this build? Are we talking about a 25k dps loss or 100k?

But when I look at guggelhupf's DPS screenshot, it probably doesn't matter much because it is so high.

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silverdash wrote:

Okay but how much damage loss w/o legacy and w/o voidheart are we roughly talking about in 2.4? As in, can we likely still run all the hard engame content (uber atziri, vinktar, double T15, etc) with this build? Are we talking about a 25k dps loss or 100k?

im pretty sure u can, because you loose voidheart, but get "steel rings" wich are good craftet a HUGE dmg buff for this build. so we loose bleed/poison but our initial hit is way bigger. and as you can see in my videos i already beat uber atziri with non legacy + 4L. so im pretty sure it will work very well

Guggelhupf, what do you think about swapping melee damage on full life for posion support?

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Kasidrox wrote:

Guggelhupf, what do you think about swapping melee damage on full life for posion support?

i dont know how to calculate the "real" poison dps (8% of the combined physical and chaos damage dealt by the hit, but it stacks or ?), so i have no idea if it is a good option. maybe if someone could calculate it we would see if its viable ;)

and IF its viable i would remove "added fire" instead, because higher phys = higher poison

edit: and we dont spec into any +DOT dmg, soo... voidheart was a good choice in case of free bleeding and poison... hmmm no idea :D

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guggelhupf wrote:

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Kasidrox wrote:

Guggelhupf, what do you think about swapping melee damage on full life for posion support?

i dont know how to calculate the "real" poison dps (8% of the combined physical and chaos damage dealt by the hit, but it stacks or ?), so i have no idea if it is a good option. maybe if someone could calculate it we would see if its viable ;)

and IF its viable i would remove "added fire" instead, because higher phys = higher poison

"There is no limit to the number of poison stacks a target can have."

"The base damage per second dealt by a given application of poison equals 8% of the combined physical and chaos damage dealt by the hit which applied that particular instance of poison." - http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Poison

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Kasidrox wrote:

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guggelhupf wrote:

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Kasidrox wrote:

Guggelhupf, what do you think about swapping melee damage on full life for posion support?

i dont know how to calculate the "real" poison dps (8% of the combined physical and chaos damage dealt by the hit, but it stacks or ?), so i have no idea if it is a good option. maybe if someone could calculate it we would see if its viable ;)

and IF its viable i would remove "added fire" instead, because higher phys = higher poison

"There is no limit to the number of poison stacks a target can have."

"The base damage per second dealt by a given application of poison equals 8% of the combined physical and chaos damage dealt by the hit which applied that particular instance of poison." - http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Poison

there is no limit, but: "The default base duration of poison is 2 seconds" so we need to know the number of hits we can do x the dmg we do with one hit in 2sec too see the real dot dmg

and this is not always the same because of flasks, buffs etc. so its hard to calculate an average poison dmg output