[2.5] Pentagolem Hellfire - How to play PoE while watching TV(Shaper/Guardians)

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Overall the tree is fairly simple. Life, ES, extra curse, curse effect, minion damage. Unfortunately spell damage, ele damage and fire damage do not affect golems unless directly linked to them with gems.

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Dark_Frozen wrote:

Hi,

I have a question,

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Overall the tree is fairly simple. Life, ES, extra curse, curse effect, minion damage. Unfortunately spell damage, ele damage and fire damage do not affect golems unless directly linked to them with gems.

Since all the gems are in the body armor if I use an Infernal Mantle with

+1 to Level of Socketed Fire Gems
(25 to 35)% increased Fire Damage
100% increased Global Critical Strike Chance
(190 to 230)% increased Energy Shield
15% of Fire Damage Converted to Chaos Damage


the flame Golems are going to make 25-35% more damage and 15% of fire damage is going to be converted in Chaos?

Or I'm totally wrong?

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genida wrote:

Been walking through most T15's for a while and tried Guardians for the first time.

Absolutely destroyed, at every aspect, turn and facet of the fight. Completely one shot by the invisible Chimera. I suppose 5k ES and 2.5k Life is a bit on the low side...

Otherwise a pretty fun build. Golems are stupid though. "More aggressive" my ass.

I'm also wrecked regularly by bleed and burn. At least I think it's bleed and burn. Despite running bleeed, burn, freeze and poison flasks, I die in basically a second or two.

Definitely not the greatest player out there, but yaaay... squishy.

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MistrPow wrote:

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Indraugnir wrote:

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MistrPow wrote:

I have a question regarding something alot of people Talked about, but it always was dismissed very quickly:

Instead of running 5 Flame Golems why not run 4 with 1 other Golem (i think Chaos is our best bet).
If my Math is correct we would loose 1/5 of our Dmg output. However with 6 Primordial Harmonies each giving 17% increased Golem Damage for each Type of Golem you have Summoned.
6*0.17=1.02=102% increased Golem Damage for our Flame Golems.

So we loose one Flame Golem but the other 4 double there damage.

Maybe my math is just wrong and i am stupid. But isnt this something worth to consider?

I hope someone can check my math and actually tell me if i am wrong and where i am wrong.

This was discussed already in the previous pages, i imagine you could find an answer there.

I have been following this guide since it was created and i havent heared a good answer as to why this isnt effective.

The only answer i found is that the other golem AIs are bad. However in my calculation the other Golem isnt even doing dmg. so even if he is just standing around doing nothing. the other 4 Flame Golems would still do more damage than 5 good AI Flame Golems.

So again. Did i make a mistake in my calculation or did I miss something.

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Simplesim45 wrote:

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Lupomage wrote:

What is the finished tree at lvl (100)? Im curious to know the path that it will take or what to pick next

More life and ES, that's all.

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KinGGaiA wrote:

no, you are right. 4+1 golems is better than 5 golems, dmg wise.

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Simplesim45 wrote:

@People getting 1 shotted; wtf are you doing lol? Are you rolling all damage mods on a high tier map and standing in the most obvious stuff with no flasks up expecting to tank it?

I don't understand. Like, in what world does 8-11k EHP get 1 shotted by something that isn't completely obvious? At that point it's player mistake, I'd say. Just look at all the popular streamers with their HC rips. They know they've made a mistake (when it's not some bullshit lag death).

And the worst part is you immediately jump to the conclusion that it must be the build lol

I did 1-92 with essentially no deaths other than my pathetic attempts at learning the shaper fight and the first few guardian runs while the build wasn't even finished developing. And that's coming from a softcore player at heart who just plays overly aggressive. This build was a breeze to level and I'm now reliably doing guardians and shaper (save for stupid player mistakes from time to time).

/rant




@Multi golem type question; With enough harmonies, you can run 4/1 I think. Haven't tested it myself.