Content Update 2.6.0 Balance Changes

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shinigamiscall wrote:

The more i think about it the more upset it makes me :/ I have been playing for 4 years casually. I would come on for the leagues and play for maybe 1 week to 1 month then take a break and wait for the next one. Breach is the very first league i have made a character and reached past level 90 because i got good loot/drops and found a build i genuinely enjoyed. (Support Auramancer)

Vaal Discipline helped me out a LOT while leveling and getting better gear over time. Without that large boost in ES players will now be required to have high ES values on gear to make up for that huge loss. A proper Auramancer has to reserve life which means they can't do CI. The builds you think you are "nerfing" will be completely fine thanks to VP+GR insta leech. The builds you completely ignored are about to have a much harder time getting through content or building themselves up.

RIP Temp League Auramancers

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Dussa wrote:

Energy shield values havent changed... they got nerfed the same time life nodes did. The only change is that more and more people have access to better gear or easier access to chaos spam the best rolls on the best item level.. That's hardly abuse - thats whats supposed to happen, you get the best stuff from the best bases at the highest level. To nerf that is like telling someone, I'm gonna punish you for winning.

Dev's can't balance worth shit.

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Aynix wrote:

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PaperAirplanes wrote:

This is obviously a bit of a newbie question but when they release a patch with something like this:

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To improve player choice, we've increased the base damage of many one-handed weapon types across the board.

Does that effect existing items?

I noticed that changes to explicit mods on uniques doesn't effect previously-existing items and that's why there's this whole "legacy" business.

Is it going to be the same way when they change the base item, which normally wouldn't even have randomized stats?

If so, wouldn't that completely devalue every previously-existing phys-oriented one-handed weapon?

Prepare for "legacy 80% daggers" era!

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marixalijustice wrote:

Isn't there like practically no reason to play a health character over a CI+ES one? The current meta right now is kind of like, "play a health character as League starter until you get enough money to fund a CI ES one". Then again, I'm fairly new at the game so what do I know. Seems to me like all the builds that handle endgame content the best alone are all ES.

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DrakeMouth wrote:

Let them do there thing guys. Don't bitch and cry. Talk to them. GGG is pretty good at taking in what its players has to say.


I say plz HELP LIFE GGG.

I have had to play ES/CI/Low life ever build the last 4 or 5 leagues and then some. I have great life gear sitting around for years just waiting to get some use.


I'm talking LG
I mean ES=12-16k pool easy with not even great gear. great gear gets you 20k+
Takes 2 3 hit to kill

Life 4800 to 5600. great gear get you maybe 7k 8k if you have a leg kaoms aka not in LG.
1 shot easy if it is ELE and most phy hits as well. Not all thou.



So if you could just help Health a little some way.


THANKS GGG
from Supporter

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tacotiklah wrote:

I've been reading through a lot of the responses in this thread and I honestly think people are QQ over nothing. The actual patch notes aren't out yet, so we don't know what buffs to items/new build-enabling uniques/etc. are being introduced to balance out the nerfs here. People are getting their jimmies rustled prematurely imho.

Vaal Haste: A lot of people bitched about the clear speed meta, so GGG nerfed this gem in an attempt to slow things down a bit. Now people are QQ over a nerf to a vaal skill gem which has been part of what is pushing clearing content faster and faster. Can't have it both ways peeps.

Vaal Discipline: The core part of this is still intact; which is that your ES regen can't be interrupted. Still highly useful in tough fights. Only negative thing is the loss of the extra ES, but given that people can easily get 10k ES on the tree + gear, it's not nearly as bad as people think. Everyone has been bitching about nerfing ES, so GGG nerfs a skill gem that gives quite a bit of extra ES as part of that, and now people are bitching about the nerfs they were asking for. Again, can't have it both ways.

Daggers: Crit completely shit-wrecks content in this game and literally the only one-hander that was of any real use were daggers. Naturally, GGG wants to buff other one-handers and nerf daggers to balance the game. Welp, now people are QQ about how they can't get 80% crit on a single one-handed weapon. Never mind that it was dominating the game to the point that it was pointless to use any other one handed weapon. If people really didn't see this nerf coming at some point, they were either blind or new to the game. Daggers NEEDED to be nerfed. I love crit builds like anyone else, but when a weapon dominates the game the way daggers did, it made for very boring, repetitive builds.

AoE: It really feels like people didn't read all of what was written about it and saw "nerf" and started bitching. This was both a buff and nerf at the same time. It was a buff because you're able to get more AoE early on, but also a nerf for those that try to squeeze every bit of aoe out of their build that they can (I'm looking at you fire nova mines. Also, if you're smart, you'll see that there's a potential way around this for at least one possible 2.6 build :P ;) )

Blade Flurry: Anyone that didn't see this nerf coming is either blind or new. Everyone knew this skill was going to get nerfed hard when it came out. You can't have that much dps + AoE + double dipping from poison and pretend to be blindsided when it gets a nerf. It's a good skill, but was way too op compared to the other channeling skills that got released. And again, if you're smart, you'll be able to change your build to make use of it in other ways than just a crap ton of phys/poison/bleed and still be able to use blade flurry successfully.

Let's be honest here, how many people here that are complaining actually theorycraft their own builds? If so, then adapt. That's the whole theme of the game, in case no one was paying any attention. Survive, adapt, grow. Anyone that's been playing ARPGs for a while has come to expect that nerfs are gonna happen. And when they do, simply build around them. It's not nearly as hard as people think it is.

If you don't make your own builds, well then now would be a good time to learn. Because the meta builds that Mathil/Ziz/Ziggy/LNB/Pohx/etc are running right now may well not be viable in a few leagues. That's the nature of a game that undergoes frequent balance changes.



tl;dr version: Wait for the actual patch notes, learn to adapt, and stop crying. You'll be a better person and a better player for it.