On Balance Feedback and Charge Changes

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allbusiness wrote:

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GreenDude wrote:

Don't beat yourselves up. You guys are clearly hard at work and we appreciate it.

Keep in mind that while some changes may be pushed hard by a portion of the community, the portion that reacts poorly to the changes may in fact be a different one completely. Theres a lot of poe players so I dont think its the same people who are upset with the changes.

Ultimately its not an easy choice as to which side you listen to.

I think the major problem is that GGG tries to make a shit ton of new content AND balance at the same time. That is just a recipe for disaster, which is why this whole 3.0 patch looks like a complete shitshow. Most companies do not attempt to try and make massive balance changes when they introduce a crazy amount of new content, unless they give themselves a significant amount of time (i.e. see Reaper of Souls which put Diablo 3 back on the map, the Blizzard devs gave themselves WAY more time to balance things out PRIOR to releasing new content AND balance).

GGG committed a major blunder here by trying to do too much with too little time, and they are most definitely rushing to hit August 4th for whatever reason. They should have just delayed the patch by a month at the very least for extra time to polish balance.

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jingbandit wrote:

I have total faith in your balancing. The charges were broken and keeping them the way they are, would be giving in to a loud minority, that doesn't have the perspective to see what the game needs.

Personally i feel like the 4% more spell dmg might still be to much, since we get dmg where there was none before. And we usually have enough dmg. But i am open to see how that plays out.

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Galtrovan wrote:

Assassin nerf. It needed to be done. Why on earth the crit node was that powerful to begin with is beyond me. The same goes for the 100% more damage on poison/bleed. Just wow.

Frenzy charge change, I'd like to know why generic 4% more damage was added to it in the first place. 4% attack/cast speed as originally implemented was good in my opinion. 4% more damage just made Frenzy charges over the top. At any rate, changing the 4% more damage to attack only, I don't like. If you are going to do 4% more for attack only, I'd rather you just remove the 4% more damage altogether and return Frenzy to 4% attack/cast speed. Or even change the 4% more damage into something else, like 4% totem/trap/mine placement speed per charge. That way, no matter the build something about the charge applies.

Power charge change. Reducing the crit chance, fine. 4% more spell damage per power charge to compensate for the reduced crit chance, don't like it just applying to spells. If you are going to do 4% more damage, make it generic so that spells, attacks, traps, mines, everyone benefits.

All the charge types have always applied to all builds fairly. Let's keep it that way. Not make it so thees charges are for these builds. These other charges for these other builds.

Besides, do as I suggest, you don't have to go through all the existing uniques and change all the ones that wouldn't make sense... ala the one you just showcased.

My 2 cents.