3.11 -- Righteous Fire Juggernaut / Chieftain (Outdated and Abandoned)

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Eatsblood wrote:

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zheng738 wrote:

I don't even bother casting scorching ray in a 4link, the damage is garbage in a 4l to begin with. I just use it as a 0link to lower fire res

The damage is equal to your RF damage in a 4 link. You're basically doubling your dps.

ive tried the 4l sr setup before I didn't like it, and = to your rf dmg? yea, no

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tonic317 wrote:

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zheng738 wrote:

making new things work again

How good at flask management and avoiding mechanics to you have to be to kill uber elder with your current setup?

just follow the regular uber elder mechanics, except your immune to inked ground and shapers cold balled ground. so you no longer need to detonate balls in the corner.

you still need to avoid the triple balls but your margin of error is large, can eat 2 balls and still live through it.

you have ages to move out of the beam.

as long as your fortify is up you can tank the shaper slams/elder slams and regen the lost health in about 2 seconds.

How tanky is this in the uberelder fight? Is the fight easy or u still have to dodge a lot?

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zheng738 wrote:

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Eatsblood wrote:

The damage is equal to your RF damage in a 4 link. You're basically doubling your dps.

ive tried the 4l sr setup before I didn't like it, and = to your rf dmg? yea, no

With Scorching Ray, Efficacy, Burning Damage and Level 16 Elemental Focus, with +2 Level of Socketed Fire Gems, Stage 8 Scorching Ray is putting out 215,727 dps. My 6 linked Righteous Fire (conc & burn, no horror - swift) does 235,398 dps. That's pretty close to equal for me.

I see you have Horror on yours, that would add about 71k dps for me. So at that point, maybe 2/3 more not fully doubled.

Is it better to save for a Kaom's heart or to pick up 2x Koam's way rings? sitting at 89c right now.

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tonic317 wrote:

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Tonst3r wrote:

Hello! HUGE fan of this! Running it on Betrayal and went from budget into Midrange, killed some of the guardians already! (Shaper whooped me though haha)

Quick question that's confusing the heck out of me. In the end-example gear, I don't see +(nonfire)dmg. I feel like I'm missing something.

ATM I have it on my gloves but I'm wondering if there's something I'm overlooking that's proc'ing it? Do you link added cold to shield charge or something? Thanks a bunch!

drop an orb of storms on w/e you fight

ive been using storm brand instead of orb of storms and im loving it for procing EE :-)

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pantomime wrote:

Is it better to save for a Kaom's heart or to pick up 2x Koam's way rings? sitting at 89c right now.

Get a kaom's heart through div cards

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Eatsblood wrote:

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zheng738 wrote:

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Eatsblood wrote:

The damage is equal to your RF damage in a 4 link. You're basically doubling your dps.

ive tried the 4l sr setup before I didn't like it, and = to your rf dmg? yea, no

With Scorching Ray, Efficacy, Burning Damage and Level 16 Elemental Focus, with +2 Level of Socketed Fire Gems, Stage 8 Scorching Ray is putting out 215,727 dps. My 6 linked Righteous Fire (conc & burn, no horror - swift) does 235,398 dps. That's pretty close to equal for me.

I see you have Horror on yours, that would add about 71k dps for me. So at that point, maybe 2/3 more not fully doubled.

for once ill do the breakdown on someone's char.


your 230k rf dmg? that's with blasmaphey and flamility enabled constantly, you remove the flammability and it goes down to 160k. your also boosting the dps with surge+swift instead of efficacy+inc coe, so your rf radius small.


if you remove the surge + swift and replace with 20/20 inc aoe and efficacy.
your rf dps becomes 144k, but with a much bigger radius.


I am discounting the inflated dps with flamabiliy because your curse's effectiveness is basicly down to nothing vs bosses like uber elder, guardians, ect.


ive ran the blasmaphey setups before, it cuts into your utility and you need really good gear for it because you lose out on res because you can't run purity of ice, making the fight at uber elder harder. if you really like the blasmaphy setup, try the new shaper's unique necklace, its interesting. ive played with the blasmaphy setups before you can even run extra curses with a good amulet. you can also try running the chaos impresence to add a extra free despair aura. in the end though I chose to do away with the blasmaphey setup.


last of all, how are you magically running a 4l scorching ray with bloodmagic lv1 crafting disabled?


also lol if i do run the blasmaphecy setup my rf dps goes up to 330k lol. i don't run it though, i don't see that extra dps at endgame bosses.

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Shuggananas wrote:

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pantomime wrote:

Is it better to save for a Kaom's heart or to pick up 2x Koam's way rings? sitting at 89c right now.

Get a kaom's heart through div cards

card prices went up, it you get a bad corrupted koams you actually lose out a little now, if you assume a koam is 2ex the cards would cost you 2.6.

but cards are still the best way to go in my opinion

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zheng738 wrote:

for once ill do the breakdown on someone's char.

your 230k rf dmg? that's with blasmaphey and flamility enabled constantly, you remove the flammability and it goes down to 160k. your also boosting the dps with surge+swift instead of efficacy+inc coe, so your rf radius small.


if you remove the surge + swift and replace with 20/20 inc aoe and efficacy.
your rf dps becomes 144k, but with a much bigger radius.


I am discounting the inflated dps with flamabiliy because your curse's effectiveness is basicly down to nothing vs bosses like uber elder, guardians, ect.


ive ran the blasmaphey setups before, it cuts into your utility and you need really good gear for it because you lose out on res because you can't run purity of ice, making the fight at uber elder harder. if you really like the blasmaphy setup, try the new shaper's unique necklace, its interesting.


last of all, how are you magically running a 4l scorching ray with bloodmagic lv1 crafting disabled?

You're right I had Flammability enabled in PoB, but I'm actually not running it. It's just still in the shield from when I was. Realized that with Witchfire flask, if I didn't have something enabling dual curse it was a waste. I started last league late, so I haven't done uber elder yet.

Mana is an issue for the 4l. I've ended up scaling it back to 3l for that reason.

But the question here was if 4l SR was similar dps to RF. The reductions you've made to RF damage aren't changing those facts. But not having the mana to sustain 4 Stage obviously is. With blood magic, it's definitely equal dps to RF, though.