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I've been trying this build for the first time as league starter.
once in maps, i started feeling a bit weak, so i switched SD to Templar tacticians
I have 4 spectres, running this equip, but it feels fairly lacking in damage.
should i jump on these new Syndicate operatives?
is the problem in my equip?
i can barely do tier 11..



Last edited by Drest on Sep 28, 2020, 7:40:34 AM
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Sazzbot wrote:
My Animate guardian died to Al-Hezamin. But when Revived him in hideout, he still had his gears. I thought items were supposed to be destroyed when they die?


he is supposed to lose all his gear.
It's either a new thing or a bug in the new league
Last edited by snowmittens on Sep 28, 2020, 7:59:34 AM
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dperls wrote:
When min/maxing, is a +3/minion dmg/hypo helm BIS for SOs? Specters in helm and utility minions in chest?


Yes, because the Spectres are getting a ~7% dmg Boost per level until lvl 30 then its around ~3% per level also the defense of the spectres will go up with gem lvl.

so even a +3 Helmet wirh Hypo lvl 18 and Minon dmg lvl 18 is still better than +2 Helmet with 20/20 Hypo/Minion dmg

Last edited by PatrickFN on Sep 28, 2020, 8:23:45 AM
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gravijas wrote:
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Pixlax wrote:
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gravijas wrote:
Been following your guide for and have been using syndicate operatives for 3 days now. Got a couple of questions!

Why pick wrath as aura if we convert into cold damage? Im using Hatred for the build.

Im still using Predator on my spectre setup. should I swap it for spell echo?

also you have the spectre node located without building up there? how can I do this as well?


the build says hatred, where did u get wrath from?
u maybe looking on the gems for slave drivers?

the node is used with anointing Death Attunement, on amulet



under recommended spectres it says wrath.


And on youtube video it says hatred.

So which one it is?
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Drest wrote:
I've been trying this build for the first time as league starter.
once in maps, i started feeling a bit weak, so i switched SD to Templar tacticians
I have 4 spectres, running this equip, but it feels fairly lacking in damage.
should i jump on these new Syndicate operatives?
is the problem in my equip?
i can barely do tier 11..





hey, i justed looked at your tree it looks fine.
The thing i noticed is, that your Templar tacticians are converting Pyhs to Lightning | 60% for Stormcall and 80% for Ball Lightning there for i would say because you are using the Triads with 4G (100% of Phys Damage is convertet to Cold dmg)the damage will fall short.

Besides this, if you are using Elemental Focus you cant use Hypothermia because your Spectres cant Freeze Enemies..

I dont know how PoE calculates the dmg with double conversion but i think its not too good for these spectres.

If you take the Syndicate Operatives the Clear will feel much more smoother even Bossdmg will be much more.

You just have to take out Ele Focus for Elemental Dmg with Attack skills and the Hypothermia for Vicious Projectiles then you dmg should be pretty solid.
(No changes in the Tree needed)

Im not an expert summoner player so if anything is wrong just correct me :)

Last edited by PatrickFN on Sep 28, 2020, 9:04:52 AM
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Navezz wrote:


So which one it is?


OFC its Hatred just read the skills :)
If you are using 4G Triad Grips with 4G = 100% Of Phys Dmg converted to Cold.

Wrath = Adds Lighting Dmg to Spells
Hatred = Physical Dmg as Extra Cold dmg + More % Cold Damage

So what would you choose?
Last edited by PatrickFN on Sep 28, 2020, 8:52:55 AM
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Navezz wrote:
Would predator be better than vicious projectiles for sirus? I hate how minions stop attacking him when im trying to dodge his attacks. Using SO's



Depneds on the Other Links you are using.

for Syndicate Operatives you should use following links if you are not using a +3 Helmet with pseudo 6/7 Links.

Raise Spectre
Spell Echo
Minion Dmg
Greater Multiple Projectiles
Elemental Damage With Attack Skills
Vicious Projectiles

For Bossing you could swap out Minion Dmg for Feeding Frenzy or for more Single Target you can put in Predator
Last edited by PatrickFN on Sep 28, 2020, 8:59:08 AM
please tell me how to make a SO purely physical damage?
what kind of stone / skill tree replacement do you need?
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Tr1adec wrote:
please tell me how to make a SO purely physical damage?
what kind of stone / skill tree replacement do you need?


They are already pure Phys Spectres from base so just dont use Elemental Conversion :)

The tree should be the same because all the Minion nodes are just increasing Minion Damage and not specific elemental or Phys damage.

I could be wrong i only played Summoner for 2 Leagues now.

Just put the Build into PoB and test out how Phys Damage is worth it.

The thing is, that you can scale Elemental Damage much more easier than phys damage.
Last edited by PatrickFN on Sep 28, 2020, 9:12:22 AM
I got omegalul luklcky on my uberlab run and got: Flesh offering 21 ias.

Is i it worth on SO?
Are RS gona be better as non enchant SO's?

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