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Arteriom wrote:

Can someone tell me how Unending Hunger activates soul eater if theres only 30 int in the radius? I am obviously just blind and missing it but if I could get the breakdown for that it would be appreciated.

The Int doesn't have to be allocated, just has to exist in the radius.

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Kazm0t wrote:

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Severinze wrote:

I dropped about 50ex and made the change to PoH. The damage and clear speed is insane. But I feel a LOT squishier. I never died with W&S being near block capped and with all the life and regen. But I've died twice so far. I know it's a different playstyle, plus I need to make sure to play flask piano and make sure there are always corpses if things get a little dicey, but the damage and clear speed are crazy good.

Did a fast UE last night as well. Very smooth, near instant-phasing all around. Although casting convocation at the right time is just as crucial, otherwise, rip spectres.

With 50 ex, you could have gone with the zombie build and pretty much do deathless UE. You still have to dodge shaper's beam and balls. Other than that, you pretty much just run around UE and shaper and let the zombies finish the job.

With 50 ex you can do a ton of build that can do UE easily. That's beside the point. This is for spectre build, not baron zombie.

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worldpk wrote:

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Kazm0t wrote:

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Severinze wrote:

I dropped about 50ex and made the change to PoH. The damage and clear speed is insane. But I feel a LOT squishier. I never died with W&S being near block capped and with all the life and regen. But I've died twice so far. I know it's a different playstyle, plus I need to make sure to play flask piano and make sure there are always corpses if things get a little dicey, but the damage and clear speed are crazy good.

Did a fast UE last night as well. Very smooth, near instant-phasing all around. Although casting convocation at the right time is just as crucial, otherwise, rip spectres.

With 50 ex, you could have gone with the zombie build and pretty much do deathless UE. You still have to dodge shaper's beam and balls. Other than that, you pretty much just run around UE and shaper and let the zombies finish the job.

With 50 ex you can do a ton of build that can do UE easily. That's beside the point. This is for spectre build, not baron zombie.

Funny thing is that build can do uber lab like the traps don't exist. It can be the fastest lab runner as well.

SO what's the overall verdict here? Pledge of hands or Wand and shield?

Pretty sure if people are interested in playing these other builds, they'll play it. They're at the top of the list along with this one. Not sure what's the point of promoting a different build in here when nobody asked for it. This build also doesnt lock you into Slave Drivers, it's just the main spectre used.

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worldpk wrote:

Pretty sure if people are interested in playing these other builds, they'll play it. They're at the top of the list along with this one. Not sure what's the point of promoting a different build in here when nobody asked for it. This build also doesnt lock you into Slave Drivers, it's just the main spectre used.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to put down this build. In fact I used to play this build. It's just not as strong as I'd hope it to be. I sold my gear and tried the other build. It's the same play style, spectres and zombies and skitterbots and AG. Turned out to be better. Just letting other players know there are options. And like I said, there's even a bonus. Uber lab farmer as well.

I would say this is a solid build, but there are definitely other builds on the forums that are stronger and more tanky.

Sorry if it came off very defensive haha, no need to delete anything. Just felt like it was putting down the build/reason to spend many EX on it. I spent lots of EX on both W&S and PoH version, quite enjoying both of them. The way I read it was almost like "why spend ex on this build when there's that other one"

Personally I was very indecisive early on in the league between this build and the two you guys mentioned (Qlida's Zombiemancer I assume and bruno's King of all summoners), but ultimately went with this one simply because it felt more budget-friendly (W&S), which I then moved over to PoH and slowly upgraded my gear. I was put off by the Zombiemancer's high cost to be efficient. As for king of summoner, it reminded me too much of a build I played in Incursion which lagged me a lot, hadn't really taken the time to read too much into it and realize it's also mostly a Baron-based build.

Maybe I'll try one/both of them before the end of the league. Still have a lot of leftover currency to play around with.

Let's say you had an extra curse available, which one would you run?

Enfeeble or Temp Chains?

Which is more effective against uber elder?

I'm sure Temp Chains is great for deep delving but wondering which is better for bossing.

I can already sleep through Uber Elder but I'm trying to see if I can be in a coma and do it.

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RastakhanRumble wrote:

Let's say you had an extra curse available, which one would you run?

Enfeeble or Temp Chains?

Which is more effective against uber elder?

I'm sure Temp Chains is great for deep delving but wondering which is better for bossing.

I can already sleep through Uber Elder but I'm trying to see if I can be in a coma and do it.

Personally I feel they're both useless against Uber Elder due to the curse effect penalty.

You're looking at 5% reduced action speed VS 5% less damage taken, if you have no curse effect. It's barely noticeable, although temp chain wins in other areas IMO.