[3.6] Immune HOWA Jugg | CI 15k+ es | Insane dps | Indestructible | Uber Elder video up



My cxurrent shield griz, good? I find myself getting hammered at 450 depth in mind right now tempted to run defensive curses Any chance you can look at my POB and make recommendations? I have screwed something up somewhere..clearly.

my current curses are Ele weak/proj weak on a level 12 CWDT.

Wondering if I should swap Enfeeble for ele weakness since I already run Proj weak and conviction?

Last league I hit close to 600 before I had to worry about 1 shots with your build but I was also BF not MS
Last edited by ChestyPuller#1566 on Apr 3, 2019, 10:34:53 AM
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ChestyPuller wrote:


My cxurrent shield griz, good? I find myself getting hammered at 450 depth in mind right now tempted to run defensive curses Any chance you can look at my POB and make recommendations? I have screwed something up somewhere..clearly

I mean, lack od intelligence is a huge problem here, many of your items and jewels could be upgraded (basically every single one), no watcher's eye yet, i don't know how much es you got but i feel like you still could get at least 5k more, with a lot more damage too (thanks to more intelligence)

Tree seems to be fine tho

Edit: you took one 10% increase aoe node near witch due to mistake probably
Last edited by grizzly40#2276 on Apr 3, 2019, 10:34:00 AM


I have this one bro. I have 12k ES right now.

As far as upgrading jewels, I tried to mirror what you had in POB for the MS variant. What would you advise I change?

Now to go look for that pesky AOE nods I grabbed. lol


For the life of me I can not find the node you're talking about for AOE. What keystone is it near.
Last edited by ChestyPuller#1566 on Apr 3, 2019, 10:45:04 AM
What I am getting at is INT better than lightning damage to attacks, or to claw attacks, etc.

The other issue im running into is I dont craft and there is almost nothing I can buy with decent INT on it for a shield that does not tank my ES
Last edited by ChestyPuller#1566 on Apr 3, 2019, 10:53:00 AM
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ChestyPuller wrote:


I have this one bro. I have 12k ES right now.

As far as upgrading jewels, I tried to mirror what you had in POB for the MS variant. What would you advise I change?

Now to go look for that pesky AOE nods I grabbed. lol


For the life of me I can not find the node you're talking about for AOE. What keystone is it near.

Wow maybe i clicked that node when i was looking at your char, my bad :p

In terms of jewels, es + int + int (str+int, all attri) is the best combination possible

About ES, i was able to get 16k in 3.4, so that is what you should be aiming for. It's probably possible to get around 18k es with gg gear

About shield, if i were you i'd buy a high ilvl titanium spirit shield with good synthesised mods (extra es, int, something like that) and then craft it with dense fossils, or just chaos spam.
OK thanks mate I assume I should keep a few of the increased max energy shield % like you have yes?
grizzly, I may have found an improvement on the tree you link (my current POB: https://pastebin.com/eCp2iJZQ - note a lot of dps boosts like flasks/frenzy are disabled) vs the alternative ( https://pastebin.com/3zjNZBuu ).

Gain: 23% more dps and 5 ES, lose ability to shock and 5% movespeed
Or without elemental focus, gain 7% more dps and 5 ES, lose 5% movespeed

I am curious, how do you value shock for deeper delves? For things like uber elder it's obviously pretty minor - but uber elder is also trivial with this build.
Last edited by mintu#3911 on Apr 3, 2019, 3:53:05 PM
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mintu wrote:
grizzly, I may have found an improvement on the tree you link (my current POB: https://pastebin.com/eCp2iJZQ - note a lot of dps boosts like flasks/frenzy are disabled) vs the alternative ( https://pastebin.com/3zjNZBuu ).

Gain: 23% more dps and 5 ES, lose ability to shock and 5% movespeed
Or without elemental focus, gain 7% more dps and 5 ES, lose 5% movespeed

I am curious, how do you value shock for deeper delves? For things like uber elder it's obviously pretty minor - but uber elder is also trivial with this build.

Your version is good too, but we have a bit different results for few reasons. First of all, my version has way more intelligence, %intelligence and it scales with intelligence harder, giving more bonuses for small int nodes. Secondly, my jewels were very good and every jewel slot it way more "profitable" than for you. Also you lose 1% max light res :p

It's good that you found out how to improve the build for you, but with high end game gear my version is arguably better (or very similar)
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grizzly40 wrote:
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mintu wrote:
grizzly, I may have found an improvement on the tree you link (my current POB: https://pastebin.com/eCp2iJZQ - note a lot of dps boosts like flasks/frenzy are disabled) vs the alternative ( https://pastebin.com/3zjNZBuu ).

Gain: 23% more dps and 5 ES, lose ability to shock and 5% movespeed
Or without elemental focus, gain 7% more dps and 5 ES, lose 5% movespeed

I am curious, how do you value shock for deeper delves? For things like uber elder it's obviously pretty minor - but uber elder is also trivial with this build.

Your version is good too, but we have a bit different results for few reasons. First of all, my version has way more intelligence, %intelligence and it scales with intelligence harder, giving more bonuses for small int nodes. Secondly, my jewels were very good and every jewel slot it way more "profitable" than for you. Also you lose 1% max light res :p

It's good that you found out how to improve the build for you, but with high end game gear my version is arguably better (or very similar)


Makes sense - I should have tested this with your POB's gear. So far I just put this together with some gear laying around, haven't bought anything for the build yet. Given how it's already performing, I might not have to. You are absolutely right about the jewels, the ones I have are lousy and just what I needed to cap res.

What are your thoughts on the value of shock in deep delve? Is elemental focus worthwhile?
Last edited by mintu#3911 on Apr 3, 2019, 8:21:07 PM
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mintu wrote:
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grizzly40 wrote:
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mintu wrote:
grizzly, I may have found an improvement on the tree you link (my current POB: https://pastebin.com/eCp2iJZQ - note a lot of dps boosts like flasks/frenzy are disabled) vs the alternative ( https://pastebin.com/3zjNZBuu ).

Gain: 23% more dps and 5 ES, lose ability to shock and 5% movespeed
Or without elemental focus, gain 7% more dps and 5 ES, lose 5% movespeed

I am curious, how do you value shock for deeper delves? For things like uber elder it's obviously pretty minor - but uber elder is also trivial with this build.

Your version is good too, but we have a bit different results for few reasons. First of all, my version has way more intelligence, %intelligence and it scales with intelligence harder, giving more bonuses for small int nodes. Secondly, my jewels were very good and every jewel slot it way more "profitable" than for you. Also you lose 1% max light res :p

It's good that you found out how to improve the build for you, but with high end game gear my version is arguably better (or very similar)


Makes sense - I should have tested this with your POB's gear. So far I just put this together with some gear laying around, haven't bought anything for the build yet. Given how it's already performing, I might not have to. You are absolutely right about the jewels, the ones I have are lousy and just what I needed to cap res.

What are your thoughts on the value of shock in deep delve? Is elemental focus worthwhile?

Nah not at all, we don't really utilize shock as we don't have good chance to shock, we don't crit often and we don't have very high single hit damage

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