[3.13] HC/SC/SSF All Content Miner - Any Mine Skill - LL/CI - 12k ES w/ Videos!

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Zudi168 wrote:

Thanks for the guide. How do you best use the Vaal Righteous Fire gem in the build, as shown in your POB? New to miner and that skill in general.

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KronosIT wrote:

I think you are missing the point. This guide isn't really great for less experienced players, particularly those that lack familiarity with the mine playstyle or struggle to generate currency.

If you are good at these things, then fair enough. You can probably run through maps with 1k life or whatever ES and quickly farm enough currency to buy shavs and transform into an absolute powerhouse. But a less experienced player that is still getting used to the playstyle running into maps with mediocre EHP and no defensive layers is just going to be a train wreck - and this seems to be where players are getting stuck.

Personally, I don't see any reason not to league-start as a life-based miner w/phase acro. You get plenty of respec points from the acts, and by the time you can afford to switch to LL or CI you will have enough regrets to allow you to fully respec.

When I've played the build the first time (in Harvest) since it was my first miner, I've read the guide and some of the comments on how to play a miner, realizing that once you'll get used to play the build you can run it without any real issues, because most of the mob will die before they can reach you.when you'll get the gloves you'll mitigate a lot of damage).

Damage is not a problem, but your defense layers are, so you have to understand that even with the gloves and the huge quality of life they'll give you, you won't be able to facetank anything, but you have to keep moving, use flasks and spam mines.

That's how the build works.

And no, a build that in order to works require at least 2/3 "expensive" uniques, is not beginner friendly, but I didn't see anybody stating that in the build before.

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PadreBruxo wrote:

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BeerLeague wrote:

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PadreBruxo wrote:

Guys just get shavs, shavs will solve everything, yet here i am with shavs and it just feels so weak it's not even funny. No possible comparison to 3.10 tremor + kaoms or 3.12 mom scion. I gave it some time expecting to notice a huge difference with shavs and prism but it feels pretty much the same as it felt with the potato gear i was using before so idk really.

Your flasks are a mess, as is most of your jewelry. Aura gems are level 8.

That's fair and i am aware of both those things. The flasks is just lazyness the jewelry it's because the market option are that great, excluding the amulet obviously.

At the same time, i was expecting to start struggling with my current gear on high red tier maps instead of dying stupid amounts of times on t5s like it's currently happening. Maybe the expectations just aren't realistic but i can't lie and say i didn't expect to feel a lot stronger by now.

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guillbravo wrote:

Hey,

I've been using the guide quite succesfully this league for my first miner build.

Could you give some pointers as to how to craft the +1 to all spell & +1 to all lightning skill gems wand?

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I struggle to see what ‘afford’ CI gearing means if you compare it to life builds. You can pick up 5-6k ES for less than 20c when you get to maps. On the life build you would be sitting at 3.5k with phase acro for a similar budget.

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ivaskakosoy wrote:

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I struggle to see what ‘afford’ CI gearing means if you compare it to life builds. You can pick up 5-6k ES for less than 20c when you get to maps. On the life build you would be sitting at 3.5k with phase acro for a similar budget.

LOL. 20c for 5-6k es and will be 0% resists. Try to play this league on your build, funny man. I had to be respec in the build phase acro and life according to the advice from the discussion, because your build has become unplayable since the transition to CI.

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BeerLeague wrote:

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ivaskakosoy wrote:

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I struggle to see what ‘afford’ CI gearing means if you compare it to life builds. You can pick up 5-6k ES for less than 20c when you get to maps. On the life build you would be sitting at 3.5k with phase acro for a similar budget.

LOL. 20c for 5-6k es and will be 0% resists. Try to play this league on your build, funny man. I had to be respec in the build phase acro and life according to the advice from the discussion, because your build has become unplayable since the transition to CI.

Gear is significantly cheaper this league than it ever has been before.

Check the CI gearing section, all of that is possible sans the 6 link for incredibly cheap. Hell that was SSF gear by the end of white maps.

If you dont know how to search for gear, asking for advice rather than complaining is the way to go.

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Boots with 150+ ES - Sin Trek or Doryanis are great budget options here.

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Gear is significantly cheaper this league than it ever has been before

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ivaskakosoy wrote:

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Boots with 150+ ES - Sin Trek or Doryanis are great budget options here.

Quote from your build. Doryani's Delusion price is almost 7ex right now.

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Gear is significantly cheaper this league than it ever has been before

Are you out of your mind?

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BeerLeague wrote:

Are you using Vaal disciple off cooldown? That helps quite a bit. You should also be able to pick up 1-2k more ES for very cheap.