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evilsonofgod wrote:

Hi Oester. Second time using your guide and already killed Sirus at level 91.

I wanted to ask if the current gem setup you're using is optional? I'm looking at your character and I've notice it has:

Seismic trap

Arcanist Brand

Thank you!

I've had a pretty crazy league start, so my LT was killing everything and I decided to play around with gem testing a bit earlier than I usually do it:)
(ppl that followed me before, knows i'm always testing all kinds of gem combos and skill-tree changes).

The seismic 4l (5l pseudo), was because I already get my exposure from awakened gems and (hopefully soon) my curse/mark from my ring slot - which free's up 3 sockets. Then I happened to roll a pair of decent shaper gloves with lvl20 trap&mine dmg, so I decided to test lightning spire vs seismic trap.

I came to the (obvious) conclusion that Ltrap is still by far best, due to the nature of it having no cooldown and obviously insane clear/offscreening as well, so I kept that 6L, but seismic definitely spits on spire traps, so I kept it as a 5L for now to see how much damage I can squeeze out of it:)
(I'm converting 90% of it's phys dmg to lightning dmg)

As several ppl posted here already that they've cleared the 3.17 end-game (new bosses, maven, feared, sirus, shaper etc) with pure lightning traps and just using the basic lvl 100 alira tree in the POB, so you definitely do NOT need an extra set of trap links in your gear.

So it's pretty much just me having fun and testing stuff, not anything i'd recommend ppl to follow=p maybe if you're on an extreme budget and aren't finding even a few chaos during your act 1-10, you could add seismic instead of spires as your extra early-on dps for single target until you get better gear. (but you'd need to pickup the lightning mastery for 40% conversion, combined with the 50% converion support gem ofc)

Is there a reason why you chose "Vitality has 100% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency" in your adv - option 1?

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Gathrik wrote:

Is there a reason why you chose "Vitality has 100% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency" in your adv - option 1?

Nah, it's an oversight because I was running an enlighten at the time and was able to squeeze vitality in. I'll fix it in the pob thanks.

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oestergreen wrote:

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Gathrik wrote:

Is there a reason why you chose "Vitality has 100% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency" in your adv - option 1?

Nah, it's an oversight because I was running an enlighten at the time and was able to squeeze vitality in. I'll fix it in the pob thanks.

Might've been a oversight aswell but I had to make a couple of changes myself to make adv option 1 work. You can't cast Stone Golem and Sigil of Power with the mana you have if you choose Aura Damage Mastery over Reservation Efficiency Mastery. I had to pickup Deep Thoughts with Leap to make spamming traps work and had to switch out my high level gems to low levels to cast SG and SP.

My current tree: https://pastebin.com/LSW0eFgg

Got some new jewels aswell but I'm still not reaching the damage thresholds that you have but I'm coming there. And a insane wand I'll probably never replace.

Hello everyone!

Im having a great time with this build, I even defeated the searing exarch and the eater of worlds.

I have one question though, where do you get 70% spell block and 50% block? I'm curently at 27 and 37% but the only difference i find is that my shield is has 15% less block (not the 40% difference I see with the PoB).

My character is PewPewLightningTraps if you would like to look at it.

Loving the build, thank you very much!

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Gathrik wrote:

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oestergreen wrote:

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Gathrik wrote:

Is there a reason why you chose "Vitality has 100% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency" in your adv - option 1?

Nah, it's an oversight because I was running an enlighten at the time and was able to squeeze vitality in. I'll fix it in the pob thanks.

Might've been a oversight aswell but I had to make a couple of changes myself to make adv option 1 work. You can't cast Stone Golem and Sigil of Power with the mana you have if you choose Aura Damage Mastery over Reservation Efficiency Mastery. I had to pickup Deep Thoughts with Leap to make spamming traps work and had to switch out my high level gems to low levels to cast SG and SP.

My current tree: https://pastebin.com/LSW0eFgg

Got some new jewels aswell but I'm still not reaching the damage thresholds that you have but I'm coming there. And a insane wand I'll probably never replace.

as i stated somewhere, forgot those thread of hope/intuitive leap and go get some clusters, you will reach 4M4 instead of 3M3 (here : https://pastebin.com/T5z3d6fu). You can reach 5M if you get the right jewels.

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oestergreen wrote:

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evilsonofgod wrote:

Hi Oester. Second time using your guide and already killed Sirus at level 91.

I wanted to ask if the current gem setup you're using is optional? I'm looking at your character and I've notice it has:

Seismic trap

Arcanist Brand

Thank you!

I've had a pretty crazy league start, so my LT was killing everything and I decided to play around with gem testing a bit earlier than I usually do it:)
(ppl that followed me before, knows i'm always testing all kinds of gem combos and skill-tree changes).

The seismic 4l (5l pseudo), was because I already get my exposure from awakened gems and (hopefully soon) my curse/mark from my ring slot - which free's up 3 sockets. Then I happened to roll a pair of decent shaper gloves with lvl20 trap&mine dmg, so I decided to test lightning spire vs seismic trap.

I came to the (obvious) conclusion that Ltrap is still by far best, due to the nature of it having no cooldown and obviously insane clear/offscreening as well, so I kept that 6L, but seismic definitely spits on spire traps, so I kept it as a 5L for now to see how much damage I can squeeze out of it:)
(I'm converting 90% of it's phys dmg to lightning dmg)

As several ppl posted here already that they've cleared the 3.17 end-game (new bosses, maven, feared, sirus, shaper etc) with pure lightning traps and just using the basic lvl 100 alira tree in the POB, so you definitely do NOT need an extra set of trap links in your gear.

So it's pretty much just me having fun and testing stuff, not anything i'd recommend ppl to follow=p maybe if you're on an extreme budget and aren't finding even a few chaos during your act 1-10, you could add seismic instead of spires as your extra early-on dps for single target until you get better gear. (but you'd need to pickup the lightning mastery for 40% conversion, combined with the 50% converion support gem ofc)

hello dude, i have read the changes about shock and still i dont think you reach the 60% shock effect by far stated in the pob (which is checked by the way for some build while you dont even have the 60% node). Jusk go check the wiki which has the current version of shock calculation. For Sirus the dps output is way to low to reach 18% shock effect.
edit: just uncheck the 60% you forcce in POB, you will see POB give you no more than 18% from skitterbots.

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vitto369 wrote:

hello dude, i have read the changes about shock and still i dont think you reach the 60% shock effect by far stated in the pob (which is checked by the way for some build while you dont even have the 60% node). Jusk go check the wiki which has the current version of shock calculation. For Sirus the dps output is way to low to reach 18% shock effect.
edit: just uncheck the 60% you forcce in POB, you will see POB give you no more than 18% from skitterbots.

If you read my upper responses you'd know I don't have the node because I'm doing gem-tests. I very rarely use a standard tree from POB, i'm always testing different things and gems.

As for shock, I'll explain it again.

POB doesn't calculate your shock (you can google that), hence it just reverts to whatever default value it can find on gems if possible, as example if u have skitterbots it just reverts to that 19%, even though you obviously SEE in-game your shock is much higher on the bosses ( it's literally displayed under their names when u kill them ), which is exactly the reason they added the field where can input your actual shock. (which is visible on bosses since 3.15).

If you disable the manual shock field in POB, it reverts down to 19% shock.
Now if you disable the skitterbots gem, oopsy, now POB jumps up to 50%! default shock. So do you think you suddenly magically gained 30% shock by not using skitterbots? or that skitterbots LOCK characters at 19%? do you think anyone sane would use that gem then with crit builds? ... the answer is no:)

So I say again :D ... pob does not calculate shock.

And POB doesn't have to, since it's displayed IN-game since 3.15 directly under the boss name you're killing.

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So, can we get 60% shock vs Sirus/Shaper? absolutely!
I showed that in the previous leagues and in the current league, I'm already up to 56% vs guardians (they have less resist, but my gear is also FAR FAR from the POB min/max gear).

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I'll have a clip vs Sirus next time he is ready.

I'm not wearing a corrupted shavs. (biggest item in a min/max)
My weapon has 2 dead mods (should have aisling multi and +1 or lightning as extra chaos)
I only have 1 cluster and it's not filled out yet as I can't drop alira atm and i'm missing the 8% penetration notable and the jewel sockets from the adv tree, as I can't transition with my current gear/resists.

I have a mageblood, but my flasks are rolled defensively, so mageblood isn't much help on damage(shock). Currently only my diamond benefits in terms of raw dmg/being active (which it anyway would be obviously in a boss kill).

Shortly said, i'm far away from the min/max that the POB represents and i'm pulling off 56% vs guardians already and will get to 60% on bosses like Sirus by the time I'm even just in the neighborhood of min/max gear.

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oestergreen wrote:

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vitto369 wrote:

hello dude, i have read the changes about shock and still i dont think you reach the 60% shock effect by far stated in the pob (which is checked by the way for some build while you dont even have the 60% node). Jusk go check the wiki which has the current version of shock calculation. For Sirus the dps output is way to low to reach 18% shock effect.
edit: just uncheck the 60% you forcce in POB, you will see POB give you no more than 18% from skitterbots.

If you read my upper responses you'd know I don't have the node because I'm doing gem-tests. I very rarely use a standard tree from POB, i'm always testing different things and gems.

As for shock, I'll explain it again mate.

POB doesn't calculate your shock (you can google that), hence it just reverts to whatever default value it can find on gems if possible, as example if u have skitterbots it just reverts to that 19%, even though you can obviously SEE in-game your shock is much higher on the bosses ( it's literally displayed under their names when u kill them ), which is exactly the reason they added the field where can input your actual shock. (which is visible on bosses since 3.15).

With the 60% node I'm able pulling off 56% shock in my current week 1 gear vs the guardians. I'll have a clip vs Sirus from next time he is ready.

And i'm far from wearing the min/max gear in the POB, this is just start of week 2.

I'm not wearing a corrupted shavs. (biggest item in a min/max)
My weapon has 2 dead mods (should have aisling multi and +1 or lightning as extra chaos)
I only have 1 cluster and it's not filled out yet as I can't drop alira atm and i'm missing the 8% penetration notable and the jewel sockets from the adv tree, as I can't transition with my current gear/resists.

I have a mageblood, but my flasks are rolled defensively, so it's not that much help on damage(shock). Currently only my diamond benefits in terms of raw dmg/being active (which it anyway would be obviously in a boss kill).

Shortly said, i'm far away from the min/max that the POB represents and i'm pulling off 56% vs guardians already and will get to 60% on bosses like Sirus by the time I'm even just in the neighborhood of min/max gear.

apologies you are right

i would love to have someone able to do the calculations, i would like to understand how it is calculated.

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vitto369 wrote:

as i stated somewhere, forgot those thread of hope/intuitive leap and go get some clusters, you will reach 4M4 instead of 3M3 (here : https://pastebin.com/T5z3d6fu). You can reach 5M if you get the right jewels.

I tried this setup and it severely screwed me on mana and resistances, let alone losing 600es.

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Gathrik wrote:

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vitto369 wrote:

as i stated somewhere, forgot those thread of hope/intuitive leap and go get some clusters, you will reach 4M4 instead of 3M3 (here : https://pastebin.com/T5z3d6fu). You can reach 5M if you get the right jewels.

I tried this setup and it severely screwed me on mana and resistances, let alone losing 600es.

I will try the thead of hope setup to see how easier it is, still i dont feel any issues with my mana. It is true i kinda struggle for my resist though. Anyway i love the move speed for clearing withthis setup