[3.14] Kami's Life | LL | CI CoC Ice Nova Assassin | all Content | deep Delve | max Block

if i go for life version of this build should I dual-wield the cospri's or go for a shield?
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Dazzuh wrote:
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TheNukes wrote:
I'm confused about APS breakpoints.

I played a fire conversion CoC build last league that used Frostbolt in one Cospri's and Ice Nova in the other, with Wave of Conviction in the 6L for fire exposure. That build does for 15 APS with 14%+ cooldown recovery. CoC damage is hard to calculate but, for example, here's a video from the guide of a wave 20 Kosis kill in 5 seconds (with the reduced damage from crits mod): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHCeM1zGBSw&ab_channel=FilipeFrancisco. (Kosis is at 4:38.)

Here's that guy's PoB: https://pastebin.com/04Tws7SD. And here's the guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2676194/page/1

What I'm confused about is this: With 15 APS shouldn't that build be procing fewer Novas and Frostbolts than this build does with 7.5 APS? But it seems like that build actually gets more procs than this one - both from the damage and just from the number of Frostbolts on the screen. (And again, he only has 14% cooldown recovery.)

I know there are in-depth guides to how CoC works, including in this guide, and I've read several of them. But they seem to contradict each other and I don't know who's right. Can anyone tell me what's going on here/what I'm missing?

This is my first CoC build so take what I'm saying here with a pinch of salt. - I'm by no means an expert and all of this is just theoretical from what I've read of the guides.

I've read a few of the guides on CoC and from what I can understand, 7.57 is the sweet spot with 14% CRS if you're only using one Cospri's, 15.14 (7.57x2) is the sweet spot if you're dual wielding Cospri's due to the fact that Cyclone alternates between each equipped weapon per hit, the issue with this is any number between 7.57 and 15.14 is going to be large DPS loss for your CoC 6 link, due to the fact that it can still only proc at a rate of 7.57 APS, so you'd still want to be as close to one of those numbers as possible.

so basically: at 7.57 each Cospri will be proccing one cold skill at a rate of roughly 3.785 APS, but will be proccing your 6link CoC at 7.57 which is as high as it goes for that.

at 15.14, each Cospri will be proccing one cold skill at a rate of 7.57 APS and your 6link CoC will still be proccing at 7.57 (it should be trying to proc twice, the second time being on cooldown - I'm not sure if this is detrimental to DPS or not)


Huh! Thanks - I haven't read that anywhere, but it makes sense. It's true that the fire version relies more on the Cospri's spells for damage, so it's more important to proc them as often as possible. It seems like 15 APS should proc the 6L spell about as often as 7.5 APS, if you get the timing right - there's just an extra attack that procs nothing in between each spell proc on the 6L. But it's hard to get perfect timing, so in practice with ~15 APS you'll miss a 6L proc occasionally, which is much more important if that's your main damage source.

I'm pretty satisfied with that explanation.
Where can i see Cooldown recovery rate in PoB?? I only know where to see it in game. Currently i have only the awakened CoC lvl 5 but i cant see that CDR on the character page.

And just a quick question if i was to stay at the 22% CDR that the gem gives me I just want to stay under 7.57 AS or do i want to be exactly at 7.57 AS.
Hello guys. Tell me what is wrong with me, I don't have enough mana, how can I increase it? https://pastebin.com/DrWCDcw6
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itBurns08 wrote:
Where can i see Cooldown recovery rate in PoB?? I only know where to see it in game. Currently i have only the awakened CoC lvl 5 but i cant see that CDR on the character page.

And just a quick question if i was to stay at the 22% CDR that the gem gives me I just want to stay under 7.57 AS or do i want to be exactly at 7.57 AS.

Close under or exactly 7.57.
Im trying the full block version this league, i am expecting to spend a lot of currency on it (+600ex) and see how it goes, at the moment i just bought the watcher eye with flat damage affected by hatred (i will get probably crit cap with the chest piece) and enery shield recover on hit with discipline.

Lets see how it ends, i will change few things, inspiration for awakaned add cold damage (+1 to gems its a must) and probably hypotermia for coc effect since chill is not guarantee 100% in all maps and i dont like to look to much at the mods, plus i will try to keep my ailment immune as i have now. Lets see how it goes xD
Hi guys,

I have no idea what to do next
need some advice for my build.

- https://pastebin.com/NBBzc7v0

Should I Stay on this CI + Glancing blows
and make some currency to buy explode regalia
Or go back to life + Glancing blows / Evasion build
my target is delirium Juice 40-60%.
I've heard CI is Expensive..
got investment 5EX now.
Is the Lowlife version viable with 30-40 ex ? Haven't played LL in quite a while and it's looking juicy
I want to start zoom-zoom in juiced maps, i have 40 ex budget, i will continue to upgrade my character for smooth gameplay. Which style is good to start? Can I go %40 delirious burials with 40 ex investment?
First of thanks for the guide, it seems pretty smooth and easy to get going with! :)

Iam planning to try out this build, first time trying out CoC. But I have a question tho.

I've had some luck in the league start, so iam having a HH and arround 140ex aswell now, and I want to use this build as my currency sink.

I dont think I saw something with HH anywhere, would it be possible to go for x cdr point, and use the HH for map clearing, and switch over to the "real" belt for bossing, or would it fuck something up? :) As I said, I havent tried CoC before.

Thanks again! :)

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