Atlas Changes in 3.10.0

Hmmm

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We have some ideas that we're discussing that should help on this front, and we'll let you know as they progress through internal testing.

Well let us know how that goes, and once you figure that out, THEN would be a good time to mess around with map drops.

I can't believe how entitled some people are. Seriously, some of you are like "oh no the game doesn't cater to all my personal needs so the game sucks and GGG sucks I'm not gonna play anymore buhuu".
Well you know what? Good riddance. There are thousands of players that like the game and will keep playing. You leaving won't make a dent. Actually, it will make the community better, because nobody likes toxic whiners anyway.
Good riddance, please don't come back! Cheers

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reducing the base chance of receiving an Atlas Mission chance slightly, but the net result is that with 75 Awakening Bonus Objectives complete, you'll be back to a 40% chance. With 150 Awakening Bonus Objectives complete, you'll have a 45%

Anything on this?
Maybe not make unveiling even more shit and tedious on league start ?

To resume.

We don't want as many high tier maps dropping cause people are crying about other content feeling less rewarding.

We lowered higher tier map drop chances and we feel it's good now.

Let me tell you what you didn't test GGG. You didn't test if the majority of the players feel this is good. I for one was never happy with map sustain and many like me werent. Map sustain should be EASELY archievable by raring a map. That it! No sextants needed, no chisels needed, no other content like temple or delve needed. Doing maps and getting more maps that are of equal or higher tier should be the natural course.

Other type of content should have their own rewards and not be profitable through giving maps, if anything that should be a bonus at best. Similarly, sextants, chisels, awakening and so on should be BONUS. it shouldn't be the way to get the map sustain.

Similarly but on a different topic that is related to mapping. When are we gonna get the balance changes that PoE needs? In the last... i dunno, at least 2 years, the balance has been horrible. The game has been getting harder, being able top do nay kind of high level content requires more and more expensive gear which means less and less people can do it. This can't be a good balance when you put artificial barriers to prevent the vast majority of the player base from having access to high tier content.

I'm not even talking about Delve or Awakener. I'm talking the abillity to even do high tier maps.

Most people cannot farm a few douzen exalts to finish a build. Most just don't have the time to dedicate to PoE that it requires for ludicrous profits. Most don't even have a ghood knowledge of the market and frankly I think they shouldn't need to be able to enjoy the game. And then we add that the vast majority of player, while wanting fast clear speeds, they kinda still want to take it at their own pace. It's rare for a player to clear maps in less than 5 minutes. Most people, even if they have a build capable of doing it, probably will still take 10 to 20 minutes per map because they want to have fun.

However it's hard to have fun when even the most basic of high level content is barred. I mean, GGG already made it so that drops are not fun. Most people don't bother picking up rares or identifying them cause the likelyhood of them being good is abismal and it's more profitable to just pick up currency and meta uniques. So you know, maybe make the game fun again GGG? You know, remember when hiero got reworked and totems worked on a budget? Remember when traps worked on a budget? You may think, damn people were beating end game content with budget builds but you know what was far more important than silly notions like that? People were having fun!

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xssarinx wrote:

I think they just gave everyone with criticism and feedback the middle finger LOL

Let's answer by not purchasing supporter packs, and they will stop to rise middle finger to us :) I already stopped for a while.

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ettanportion wrote:

I can't believe how entitled some people are. Seriously, some of you are like "oh no the game doesn't cater to all my personal needs so the game sucks and GGG sucks I'm not gonna play anymore buhuu".
Well you know what? Good riddance. There are thousands of players that like the game and will keep playing. You leaving won't make a dent. Actually, it will make the community better, because nobody likes toxic whiners anyway.
Good riddance, please don't come back! Cheers

Most of the people voicing concerns have done so constructively and, based on the many icons and labels I see beneath their avatars, have supported this game infinitely more than you.

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Target-farming Maps and Cartographer's Seals
This is a big topic that we're still discussing internally. Philosophically, we don't like that Cartographer's Seals go against the natural progression of your Atlas. Ideally we'd prefer that things were designed in a way where un-completing maps was not necessary. We want players to earn map completion and bonuses objectives and to feel good about having them. Cartographer's Seals worked directly against this.

We have some ideas that we're discussing that should help on this front, and we'll let you know as they progress through internal testing. To be clear, our solution will not involve Cartographer's Seals coming back in the same form they were before.

I really hope you consider that stuff carefully. It can't be a good solution to make players not want to play your atlas/game or bricking it for the next 3 months. Now as a player you have to check out standard before playing a league or play a pay2win private league or ssf league to change your progess including secondary accounts or accounts from other players while playing in groups.

Cartographer Seals or something similar would be a solution like we had before.

As a player if you brick your progression, i could only encourage you to stop playing until support resets the map completion you didnt want in your atlas.

It is already far too many stuff to manage just to run some maps you like to play.

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Elhazzared wrote:

TMap sustain should be EASELY archievable by raring a map. That it! No sextants needed, no chisels needed, no other content like temple or delve needed. Doing maps and getting more maps that are of equal or higher tier should be the natural course.

Pretty much this. Dropping top tier REGULAR maps isn't the ultimate goal of the game.. getting better gear & more currency to finish the character build - is.

Maps are nothing more than a blank sheets that players do use to bake the mods into them and thus - to have a way to control the difficulty/reward outcome.

Common tier 14-16 maps shouldn't be any more rare than tier 11-13 maps, after upgrading the atlas. So the players could play the content on the level of their character instead of grinding lower level stuff.

Also - maps are the gateways to majority of the other content.
But that's not the only gateway.

On top of that - there is STILL everything else needed in order to access this additional content - scarabs, master missions, watchstones, triggers for Sirus, map with elder/shaper mods to trigger fragments to drop, prophecies, sextants, vaal orbs/chaos/alch orbs and now - orbs of delirium.

And you still need to invest 2-6x as much as the map cost to get something good in return.

Double-gating all the content behind the map drops doesn't make any sense now. Maybe it was ok 3 years ago when the Atlas was the only endgame..

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