To GGG; do not open until the end of January

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Replyance wrote:
Hey man, I'm not sure what's up with the guild, I'm not interested in the drama. I can imagine this is stressful though, and I hope you're doing ok. If something's wrong, or somethings getting at you, please look for help and talk to someone. He'll, message me.

Maybe nothing's wrong, and you're just tired of the guild and stresses associated, and that's fine. But if something else is going on, please take care of yourself. I'm sure you don't remember me, I haven't been active in quite a while. Still, I hope you know someone cares.


Thank you for your concern. I'm fine. I just have other, more important things to deal with right now.

There is a literal BS storm going around about me disbanding the guild. I had good reasons to do it. I also have more important things to do now, than play a video game. I would recommend that everyone pay closer attention to what's happening, around the world, lately, instead of wasting energy on what happened or why it happened and creating a conglomeration of toxicity and lies against me for something that was justified.

Those people, who are wasting energy, on the disbandment, should probably put all that aside and come out of videogame-land to take a really good look at current world events. If I told everyone that what's happening, in the world, can greatly impact this game, and the release of POE II, I bet they would be interested.

This is just ONE of MANY reasons I disbanded
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All I was to those people was a monkey to do all that work so they can dictate how the guild was ran.
I'll be damned if I am nothing but a monkey.
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did I mention to pay attention to what's going on, currently, in this world?


Why don't you give back guild ownership to one of the people that you couldn't kick? Since you deem it waste of time, why not be a human being and understand other people.
Instead you chose to take a higher ground, and insult whole community.
Childish asshole or what.
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Johny_Snow wrote:
Don't see the point of this thread. The OP scammed hundreds of people, will sell the loot and disappear. At least in theory. Not sure why he is still around.


THIS.

What did op do with the currency?
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This is per our last email correspondence. Everyone else can just speculate, I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLOkbW9yCI


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enUS856US856&sxsrf=ALeKk03jQp1vcpHQgSWtF_3d3Y2SGpvcOw%3A1609308354856&ei=whjsX7feM6b85gK95Ju4BQ&q=what+does+dead+skin+on+trial+mean&oq=dead+skin+on+trial&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQElAAWABgo2JoAHABeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQCgAQaqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&gs_ivs=1&sclient=psy-ab#tts=0

Again, good luck and I totally wish all of you the best. I hope everything works out for you, in the end.

I'm going to hang up gaming and watch the world more, instead. It's so interesting, lately.

Happy New Year!



If you don't like drama and all that why did you even make this post?
CLEARLY you want that attention. You want everyone to know you disbanded a guild and stole their stuff cause your feeling were hurt, and nobody hugged you.. You are just another Selfish man-child
Go get a life
-Neo-
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There is a literal BS storm going around about me disbanding the guild.


Mmmmm...

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I had good reasons to do it.


Sounds like the real BS :D
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awesome999 wrote:
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Morkonan wrote:


The guild isn't important. Nobody will ever give a crap about what the guild's name was or what it achieved. A few years from now, even the members of it won't remember half the things they did with the guild. It. Does. Not. Matter.

But, the people do.



Hate is a mighty strong emotion. That is the whole point of rage disband isn't it? To pissed people off. To destroy the guild rather than let the "unworthy" people keep it. They will surely remembers him, he who destroy his own guild.

If you say people matters but in what way? And how? People don't listen and does not respect people feeling. This I clearly see. Words is of little value without its crucial meaning.


I can't act to judge a person or actions I'm not familiar with. I can only respond to what's in front of me. What was in front of me in the OP's post is what I responded to.

I didn't see the word "hate" being used in that post. You, however, did. Please point out where the word "hate" was used.

Or, did you make an assumption that is not in evidence?

The OP may truly "hate the world." I have no idea. The OP may have intended to "punish" everyone in the guild. I have no clue if that is true or not. The OP could have even initiated the entire affair as one big confidence scam so they could become rich with internets pixels... I don't know.

And, I wasn't going to take upon the responsibility of making those assumptions in the absence of any supporting evidence. If you like taking responsibility for such things, you are free to do so. Just don't demand that I must follow you down that rocky road.

I simply replied to the OP in an attempt to alleviate what could be a personal mistake and one that they'll carry with them for a very long time. That's what I was focused on in that reply, with the additional hopeful benefit of mitigating the impact of this event for others involved.


If the OP takes steps to mitigate the damage caused by their act, they'll be much more able to move on from this without issue. If they don't, they won't.
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Morkonan wrote:


I can't act to judge a person or actions I'm not familiar with. I can only respond to what's in front of me. What was in front of me in the OP's post is what I responded to.


I will judge him if you will not. All shall be measured. Lest someone be left out. That is what is meant by holding people to account.

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Morkonan wrote:


I didn't see the word "hate" being used in that post. You, however, did. Please point out where the word "hate" was used.

Or, did you make an assumption that is not in evidence?

The OP may truly "hate the world." I have no idea. The OP may have intended to "punish" everyone in the guild. I have no clue if that is true or not. The OP could have even initiated the entire affair as one big confidence scam so they could become rich with internets pixels... I don't know.

And, I wasn't going to take upon the responsibility of making those assumptions in the absence of any supporting evidence. If you like taking responsibility for such things, you are free to do so. Just don't demand that I must follow you down that rocky road.



Hehe educated guess...

You don't need to say the words to imply something you do.


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I simply replied to the OP in an attempt to alleviate what could be a personal mistake and one that they'll carry with them for a very long time. That's what I was focused on in that reply, with the additional hopeful benefit of mitigating the impact of this event for others involved.


If the OP takes steps to mitigate the damage caused by their act, they'll be much more able to move on from this without issue. If they don't, they won't.



I don't blame you for not understanding. To let his whimsical emotion get the better of him and ignore his responsbility and expectation as the guild leader. Instead of rising to the occasion, dragging everyone into it because of his position and behaviour. That gather no respect nor is deserving of condolence.
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Thank you for your concern. I'm fine. I just have other, more important things to deal with right now.

There is a literal BS storm going around about me disbanding the guild. I had good reasons to do it. I also have more important things to do now, than play a video game. I would recommend that everyone pay closer attention to what's happening, around the world, lately, instead of wasting energy on what happened or why it happened and creating a conglomeration of toxicity and lies against me for something that was justified.

Those people, who are wasting energy, on the disbandment, should probably put all that aside and come out of videogame-land to take a really good look at current world events. If I told everyone that what's happening, in the world, can greatly impact this game, and the release of POE II, I bet they would be interested.



Gaming is NOT a waste of energy./b]

I work full-time, I work out, I train in martial arts, I sleep 6-8hrs a night and I've still got plenty of time to spend on this game. Have YOU looked around at the world right now? Does it look like the average person can walk around wherever they fancy, does it look like there are businesses/bars/clubs open? Personally, it doesn't cost me much time/effort to post this, a few minutes of my life while I'm playing Black Mesa and sipping hot tea. And all of this is quite entertaining - we have been the #1 reddit thread for the whole day so far. Gaming is cool like that - you don't need it to run your life, you can CHOOSE everything, you can CHOOSE enjoyment.

But I can see I'm not going to talk any sense into you anymore. None of us care about what you took from the guild stash. We DO care about the guild itself and all its upgrades.

If you're too weak to handle being a trusted figure in a casual, non-competitive online community, why don't you at least give us the now-nuked guild? That way, you'll be even less tempted to come back! I can even meet in person and hash it out. If you still got some decency left in you, that is. This doesn't need to end on such a depressing note for anyone involved.


First & foremost I wanna so I used to have the utmost respect for you koolaid - you did amazing job building, running, and maintaining the guild. That being said I don't know what you were thinking. Someone made a joke you didn't like and you kick them? Then you kick 6 other people because they though it was funny and or did not agree with your point of view? I was not aware you had declared martial law.

Then you go kicking and banning EVERY SINGLE officer and member from the MISSION discord and then the MISSION guild itself... Why? over some petty drama? If up need help you had a very dedicated officer team that would handle just about anything. Or you could of even stepped down as guild master for a while. I understand GM burnout is very very real. I used to run hardcore raid guild since vanilla WoW Trust me I KNOW. But instead of doing any of these things you chose the absolutely nuclear option. I personally cared more about all the great friendships and amazing people I met in the guild more then playing the game itself. I had a absolute blast playing with everyone.

Here are some logs between the last remaining member that could not be kicked due to him donating guild point's he is clearly just trolling koolaid at this point. But it clearly show's how selfish koolaid is being. Well not that I personally care but I hope you enjoy the 100's if not thousands worth of exalts in gear and item's that all 250 former members donated for guild use.

[quote]2020/12/25 21:51:16 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: so how is your night going?
2020/12/25 21:51:30 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: liberating
2020/12/25 21:51:40 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: are you quiting the game?
2020/12/25 21:51:59 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: haven't decided yet
2020/12/25 21:52:07 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: do we rebuild now?
2020/12/25 21:52:19 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: rebuild what?
2020/12/25 21:52:19 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: we have the ability and tech
2020/12/25 21:52:23 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: the guild bro
2020/12/25 21:52:43 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: you blew everyone up and now can get fresh bodies
2020/12/25 21:53:06 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: maybe do it again in a few months? they are just bodies anyways!
2020/12/25 21:53:24 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: I think you just won the KDR
2020/12/25 21:53:35 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: what is KDR?
2020/12/25 21:53:41 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: Kill death ratio
2020/12/25 21:54:41 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: I have many reasons why I did what I just did
2020/12/25 21:54:54 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: I am sure bro. Its all good
2020/12/25 21:55:08 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: and I do feel bad btw
2020/12/25 21:55:19 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: why?
2020/12/25 21:55:35 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: take a break and rebuild or we can start rebuilding now
2020/12/25 21:55:42 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: not going to happen
2020/12/25 21:55:49 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: we can blame GGG and say it was system glitch
2020/12/25 21:56:08 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: I'm not going to lie(edited)
[6:37 PM]
2020/12/25 21:56:28 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: the truth is I'm tired of the toxicity in games anymore
2020/12/25 21:56:36 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: i understand that
2020/12/25 21:56:46 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: sadly its a big part of gaming
2020/12/25 21:56:55 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: want a hug?
2020/12/25 21:57:08 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: Im going to tell everyone it was Magic ac
2020/12/25 21:57:47 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: Im going to say your account got hacked and the haxor kicked everyone
2020/12/25 21:58:06 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: I'm going to say that I'm tired of the toxicity in video games
2020/12/25 21:58:25 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: they are only toxic if you eat them
2020/12/25 21:58:40 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: but the food porn chan is gone now so there is no proof!
2020/12/25 21:58:50 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: it's all gone
2020/12/25 21:59:31 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: It can be recovered. Once it is on the internet it is never REALLY gone
2020/12/25 21:59:47 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: I get it bro. Its about sending the message
2020/12/25 22:00:19 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: no not really
2020/12/25 22:00:26 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: it's about me being done
2020/12/25 22:00:46 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: Once a gamer you are never REALLY done.
2020/12/25 22:00:54 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: your just having a bad night bro
2020/12/25 22:00:58 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: I will never lead another team in a video game after doing it for almost 23 years
2020/12/25 22:01:26 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: the toxicity level in games has gotten to a level of stupidity
2020/12/25 22:01:28 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: want me to lead it? we can be co-pilots! We can take over poe!
2020/12/25 22:01:53 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: Your smarts and my tech skillz we can do it!
2020/12/25 22:02:07 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: no thanks(edited)
[6:38 PM]
2020/12/25 22:02:16 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: Your killing me Bro
2020/12/25 22:02:55 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: It aint over till the fat bastard sings and I havent sung yet
2020/12/25 22:04:01 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: Want to go on a Vaal'ing spree?
2020/12/25 22:04:19 &<MSSN> RighteousFire_Savagery: I mean we already killed the guild... might as well kill some items right?
2020/12/25 22:04:19 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: nope I'm going to bed
2020/12/25 22:04:28 &<MSSN> SpammingBoners: goodnite[/quote]

Former officer,
~Sloshy
SpammingBoners: Don t you dare doing dicks jokes!


SpammingBoners:


¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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awesome999 wrote:
I will judge him if you will not. All shall be measured. Lest someone be left out. That is what is meant by holding people to account.


You've appointed some title to yourself that allows you to judge for things that may not be in evidence?

Okee dokey..

But, see that transcript up there? Maybe that's something to be considered. The "toxic" online game environment just loves to judge all sorts of things about people without knowing... anything.

I know doodly about any of these events. All I can know is what I assume is correct in what I have chosen to reply to. /shrug

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You don't need to say the words to imply something you do.


For the big stuff, like "hate," it's probably something that needs a much stronger admission. Or should.

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I don't blame you for not understanding.


Thanks! Though, there wasn't anything that I misunderstood.

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To let his whimsical emotion get the better of him and ignore his responsbility and expectation as the guild leader. Instead of rising to the occasion, dragging everyone into it because of his position and behaviour. That gather no respect nor is deserving of condolence.


A button-press mistake made under duress with whatever issues that formed the basis for that mistake is not the act of an irresponsible psychopath...

People make mistakes.

I don't care about the "guild." Heck, I don't even know what the name of it is. I just responded to a post by someone who seemed hard-pressed enough to publicly post about a thing they did.

It's not like he created an alt, gave them guildbank privileges, ported over to South-of-Nowhere and started sharding purples in a back alley for a couple of hours...

Anyway, the point is I was simply responding to someone who may have needed something besides a lot of flak. It's certainly not a good thing that they did and it hurt a lot of people, I'm sure.

But, the real "rise to the occasion" kind of tough things that people do aren't always experienced while busy being good leaders and brave heroes. It's when they've screwed-up that the really tough character-building bits of life end up happening.

"I don't blame you for not understanding."

(Oooh! Zing! Wooohoo, turnaround, yeehaw! ;))

Anyway, the OP has a chance to work on this and to try to make it "right" or not. It's done, so the only issue now is where it goes from here and how the people who were effected are going to be healed.

PS: There's also the very real human element - People don't just nuke things when they've had a bad day. It usually takes a bad week, a month, maybe even a year of "bad days." That's a concern, too. It's just a game, but there are people on the other side of those pixels.
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Morkonan wrote:


You've appointed some title to yourself that allows you to judge for things that may not be in evidence?


Okee dokey..

People are gonna judge you regardless. You may call me the Judge if it make you feel better.

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For the big stuff, like "hate," it's probably something that needs a much stronger admission. Or should.


Perhaps 60-85% certain is close to what it means. Sure isn't right If I say he did it out of L.O.V.E.

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Thanks! Though, there wasn't anything that I misunderstood.


You can't judge me as right or wrong if you don't judge. You committed the flawed reasoning. You do judge. You just don't acknowledge it. People are constantly judging even if they don't acknowledge it.

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Anyway, the OP has a chance to work on this and to try to make it "right" or not. It's done, so the only issue now is where it goes from here and how the people who were effected are going to be healed.

PS: There's also the very real human element - People don't just nuke things when they've had a bad day. It usually takes a bad week, a month, maybe even a year of "bad days." That's a concern, too. It's just a game, but there are people on the other side of those pixels.


The OP could make amends but didn't. (PS: An lazy half ass attempt without putting effort and sincerity in it, isn't one) Making amends can be difficult, not everyone they have harmed is set to forgive. You can carry on with life without forgiving those who have hurt you. That is perfectly fine too. If you're feeling sad, depressed or angry, it's better to let it out. Bottling up feelings is bad for mental health. It is good to know who you should hate. This isn't something to be ashamed of.



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