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i modified and run the numbers for all the pob in this guide. The numbers are absolutely similar. no nerf or buffs overall. High-impact mine numbers are offset by the damage scaling and damage effectiveness of the eye of winter skill. I got 2.54M for low budget without changes, and 2.51M for low budget with the updates from 3.17. It's also very similar numbers for higher budgets PoBs.
In my opinion this is very good news, build is solid for 3.17 with a lot of focus on bossing both in siege of atlas and archnemesis league content. Regardless, waiting for the passive tree updates in PoB and i am going to update the build guide with updated PoBs.
POB numbers don't factor in the Hydrosphere nerf.
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Posted byCharl1eTangoon Jan 28, 2022, 4:15:39 PM
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i modified and run the numbers for all the pob in this guide. The numbers are absolutely similar. no nerf or buffs overall. High-impact mine numbers are offset by the damage scaling and damage effectiveness of the eye of winter skill. I got 2.54M for low budget without changes, and 2.51M for low budget with the updates from 3.17. It's also very similar numbers for higher budgets PoBs.
In my opinion this is very good news, build is solid for 3.17 with a lot of focus on bossing both in siege of atlas and archnemesis league content. Regardless, waiting for the passive tree updates in PoB and i am going to update the build guide with updated PoBs.
POB numbers don't factor in the Hydrosphere nerf.
and please tell me how much hydro was doing damage, what's the calculation? and how much we loose?
when you say things, please consider something constructive. We have only little information yet!
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Posted byQosmozGamingon Jan 28, 2022, 7:34:50 PM
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i modified and run the numbers for all the pob in this guide. The numbers are absolutely similar. no nerf or buffs overall. High-impact mine numbers are offset by the damage scaling and damage effectiveness of the eye of winter skill. I got 2.54M for low budget without changes, and 2.51M for low budget with the updates from 3.17. It's also very similar numbers for higher budgets PoBs.
In my opinion this is very good news, build is solid for 3.17 with a lot of focus on bossing both in siege of atlas and archnemesis league content. Regardless, waiting for the passive tree updates in PoB and i am going to update the build guide with updated PoBs.
POB numbers don't factor in the Hydrosphere nerf.
and please tell me how much hydro was doing damage, what's the calculation? and how much we loose?
when you say things, please consider something constructive. We have only little information yet!
I am currently leveling this miner at the moment to prep for the next league. This is my 1st miner and I'm having a blast.
I think what the previous guy meant was that hydrosphere have a 1 second cooldown before it can proc again, they did it this way so they can reduce the burst.
I could be wrong about this part. After all it is my first miner.
Edit: Your discord link at 1st post and twitch channel does not work.
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Posted by_Spookson Jan 28, 2022, 8:01:33 PM
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I think what the previous guy meant was that hydrosphere have a 1 second cooldown before it can proc again, they did it this way so they can reduce the burst.
Edit: Your discord link at 1st post and twitch channel does not work.
This is exactly why I think EoW and Hydrosphere interaction will be gimped pretty hard when 3.17 drops. Tornado can be added along with hydrosphere and that may help offset the nerf a bit, but I doubt it'd be enough to make up for pre 3.17 DPS hydrosphere was capable of for EoW.
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Posted byreciprocateon Jan 28, 2022, 10:07:55 PM
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I think what the previous guy meant was that hydrosphere have a 1 second cooldown before it can proc again, they did it this way so they can reduce the burst.
Edit: Your discord link at 1st post and twitch channel does not work.
This is exactly why I think EoW and Hydrosphere interaction will be gimped pretty hard when 3.17 drops. Tornado can be added along with hydrosphere and that may help offset the nerf a bit, but I doubt it'd be enough to make up for pre 3.17 DPS hydrosphere was capable of for EoW.
in my opinion, Hydro was great but most of the time i was even cba to cast it and it was still melting any boss. of course it'll have a loss of damage, but given damage is already at the roof, so i dont know how much will it matter. EoW is one of the most difficult spell to calculate actual damage. All are estimates and we do not know how much of the damage was due to hydro. I bet it'll still good and will be ok to kill anything in game.
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Posted byQosmozGamingon Jan 29, 2022, 5:47:48 AM
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Could this be a good 3.17 league starter, what do you think?
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Posted byShadowphyre98on Jan 30, 2022, 2:33:09 PM
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Blazing salvo vs eye of winter vs glacial cascade. Which is best? Is there a comparison video in one of these guides I'm missing?
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Posted byxbryguyxon Jan 30, 2022, 9:26:39 PM
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Blazing salvo vs eye of winter vs glacial cascade. Which is best? Is there a comparison video in one of these guides I'm missing?
I think all good contenders. Also count the ball lightning into the list together with fireball. Fireball might be real boss melter by pure numbers wise.
I will start as blazing salvo and compare all. Glacial cascade might be quite good also but I don’t like the consistency of them.
twitch.tv/Qosmoz
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Posted byQosmozGamingon Jan 31, 2022, 8:17:55 AM
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Blazing salvo vs eye of winter vs glacial cascade. Which is best? Is there a comparison video in one of these guides I'm missing?
I think all good contenders. Also count the ball lightning into the list together with fireball. Fireball might be real boss melter by pure numbers wise.
I will start as blazing salvo and compare all. Glacial cascade might be quite good also but I don’t like the consistency of them.
twitch.tv/Qosmoz
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Posted byQosmozGamingon Jan 31, 2022, 8:17:56 AM
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guys, how i can take snakepit with elder influence? cant find on trade(
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