[3.25] CWDT Ward Loop Scion

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Igeloge wrote:

How exactly do you generate Power Charges? i cant seem to get any since im using STormrider on cluster jewel. The only thing im finding in POB wich could shock is added spell lighnting damage on Abyss jewel. Loop itself works fine but i am always on 0 power charges. Thanks in advance for your Help

Stormrider kinda sux. If you are using elemental focus in ice spear than it cannot shock. So only your support spells can shock like freezing pulse and and creeping frost but they will only shock if they crit and their crit chance is way lower than ice spear (and in order to crit they need those power charges so we end up in a very slow ramping loop). And even if they do shock there's only a 10% to get a power charge. So if you count fp and cf having 50% crit that brings us to getting a power charge on your 20th cast (5%). And the enemy must be chilled so u either must have creeping frost or your freezing pulse must have crit before. Overall its very unreliable.
Also keep in mind your support spells need to hit a minimum damage threshhold to apply ailments or else their chill will be discarded (this doesn't apply to creeping frost because it has a minimum 10% chill) and therefore you will never gain power charges because you are never shocking a chilled enemy.

Best way of getting power charges is either using power charge on crit support linked to your support spells (fp, cf) or having a "chance to gain a power charge on crit" corrupt on your staff.

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kpxkrappy1 wrote:

I've had this build working in standard with old survival secrets on 2 heartbounds and 4 flasks

I've been trying to upgrade to 1 heartbound + rare ring/anathema
Here's the calc

https://ibb.co/pj0BHb7
I've got divergent 21/20 cwdt for 21/20 anomalous skeles
I've got the 12% cdr on belt and 5% on boot implicit
I think I've followed everything from the guide. The loop does work...
at half speed

I THINK the issue is FR not doing the right damage or triggering at the right threshold.
I've tried lvl 1 FR with levels 1-13 normal cwdt (guide says 12).
13 broke loop, but 1-12 all had ice spear half speed except creeping frost which was 2/3rds sync'd
I don't currently have them, but should I be experimenting with 1-12/20 divergent cwdt?

Also possibly related to reduced skele duration.
the two heartbound getting full loops is using window of opportunity + 34% to dust, no less mastery.
Taking less mastery breaks the loop.
When switching over to 1 heartbound + window of opportunity + 34% to dust I get the half loops.
Taking less mastery breaks the loop.
should I experiment and try to hit 59% to dust?

share your pob

https://pobb.in/Q1G8KmRSGBSZ with 2 heartbounds
currently undercapped lightning res because i am out of divines for annihilating light/lazy to fix jewels


I have a 21/20 anomalous skele. I would move the 21/23 div. cwdt from my weapon to support skele + 20/20 anom. minion speed

I'd also move the lvl 1 FR to boots with a lvl 11 or lower normal cwdt (12 doesn't seem to work anymore)

I've got a rare unset with frostbite on hit + recoup life + crafted recoup mana to swap one heartbound. hoping to aisling recoup mana so I can craft some extra res.
Either that or an anathema

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kpxkrappy1 wrote:

https://pobb.in/Q1G8KmRSGBSZ with 2 heartbounds
currently undercapped lightning res because i am out of divines for annihilating light/lazy to fix jewels


I have a 21/20 anomalous skele. I would move the 21/23 div. cwdt from my weapon to support skele + 20/20 anom. minion speed

I'd also move the lvl 1 FR to boots with a lvl 11 or lower normal cwdt (12 doesn't seem to work anymore)

I've got a rare unset with frostbite on hit + recoup life + crafted recoup mana to swap one heartbound. hoping to aisling recoup mana so I can craft some extra res.
Either that or an anathema

It should all work, unless you have less life, that causes less forbidden rite damage. that's the issue. so increase life and check in the calculator.

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Akshay wrote:

It should all work, unless you have less life, that causes less forbidden rite damage. that's the issue. so increase life and check in the calculator.

Yep that was it.
I guess the calculator was a little off for standard

I'm lost. According to the calculator my loop is supposed to work. I tried both with and without Mind Over Matter but it just instantly cancels itself. Can someone try to help me out?

https://pobb.in/pYH-bV0sbZXO

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I now also tried to lower my life so FR dmg is lower than ward but it still fails the loop

https://pobb.in/knZqwEHJa_eG

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Krekhead wrote:

I'm lost. According to the calculator my loop is supposed to work. I tried both with and without Mind Over Matter but it just instantly cancels itself. Can someone try to help me out?

https://pobb.in/pYH-bV0sbZXO

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I now also tried to lower my life so FR dmg is lower than ward but it still fails the loop

https://pobb.in/knZqwEHJa_eG

- Use 2 - Swap Wands with Essence of Insanity
- Armor is not 0, this must be 0
- Your CDR is less than 27%, remove less duration mastery
- Missing Added Lightning Damage to Spells to trigger Elementalist Shock, you are missing damage
- Get Added Lightning Damage on Helm Implicit or Ring or Abyss jewel or Tattoo of the Valako Warrior

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Akshay wrote:

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Krekhead wrote:

I'm lost. According to the calculator my loop is supposed to work. I tried both with and without Mind Over Matter but it just instantly cancels itself. Can someone try to help me out?

https://pobb.in/pYH-bV0sbZXO

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I now also tried to lower my life so FR dmg is lower than ward but it still fails the loop

https://pobb.in/knZqwEHJa_eG

- Use 2 - Swap Wands with Essence of Insanity
- Armor is not 0, this must be 0
- Your CDR is less than 27%, remove less duration mastery
- Missing Added Lightning Damage to Spells to trigger Elementalist Shock, you are missing damage
- Get Added Lightning Damage on Helm Implicit or Ring or Abyss jewel or Tattoo of the Valako Warrior

Hey, thanks for the help. I made the changes you suggested but the loop still breaks pretty much instantly. Any further advice? I'm looking at youtube videos but can't figure it out.

https://pobb.in/M5kTeh6eSAHd

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Krekhead wrote:

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Akshay wrote:

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Krekhead wrote:

I'm lost. According to the calculator my loop is supposed to work. I tried both with and without Mind Over Matter but it just instantly cancels itself. Can someone try to help me out?

https://pobb.in/pYH-bV0sbZXO

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I now also tried to lower my life so FR dmg is lower than ward but it still fails the loop

https://pobb.in/knZqwEHJa_eG

- Use 2 - Swap Wands with Essence of Insanity
- Armor is not 0, this must be 0
- Your CDR is less than 27%, remove less duration mastery
- Missing Added Lightning Damage to Spells to trigger Elementalist Shock, you are missing damage
- Get Added Lightning Damage on Helm Implicit or Ring or Abyss jewel or Tattoo of the Valako Warrior

Hey, thanks for the help. I made the changes you suggested but the loop still breaks pretty much instantly. Any further advice? I'm looking at youtube videos but can't figure it out.

https://pobb.in/M5kTeh6eSAHd

https://pobb.in/bI2KqTZ6ZlvZ

I used the discord bot to fix my build and it says everything checks out but the loop stops after a few seconds, I think its a mana issue. Anything I can do to fix it? Or is it something else. Thank you

Nvm it appears to be working now. Sorry for the spam and thanks!