[3.23 Cold Conversion Blade Vortex Elementalist / Occultist (League Starter + League Finisher)

Does "increased effect of non-damaging ailments" make it easier to freeze things?

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RiotKobe wrote:

Does "increased effect of non-damaging ailments" make it easier to freeze things?

Not directly, the ease of freeze is determined by the freeze duration, which fortunately is fairly easy to increase. Of course, if you're scorching, shocking, and/or brittling though, then non-damaging ailments will make it easier to freeze by boosting your damage overall.

What are your thoughts on using new Bloodnotch+Immutable force combo? would you recommend using determination or grace for that combo? Im on Occultist version RN but using grace and damage is nice but trying to get more survavility, also have close to capped spell suppression.

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Bayron3009 wrote:

What are your thoughts on using new Bloodnotch+Immutable force combo? would you recommend using determination or grace for that combo? Im on Occultist version RN but using grace and damage is nice but trying to get more survavility, also have close to capped spell suppression.

I haven't tried it personally, and I think it sounds good if you're already feeling pretty tanky and want to crank it up even further, but the fact that it does nothing for you against 1-shots makes it not all that attractive in my opinion, since most things are only alive or unfrozen long enough to get off one shot at most anyway.

You'll almost certainly want to boost your armour over evasion since the weak point is the one-shotability

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Chronic_Painless wrote:

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Bayron3009 wrote:

What are your thoughts on using new Bloodnotch+Immutable force combo? would you recommend using determination or grace for that combo? Im on Occultist version RN but using grace and damage is nice but trying to get more survavility, also have close to capped spell suppression.

I haven't tried it personally, and I think it sounds good if you're already feeling pretty tanky and want to crank it up even further, but the fact that it does nothing for you against 1-shots makes it not all that attractive in my opinion, since most things are only alive or unfrozen long enough to get off one shot at most anyway.

You'll almost certainly want to boost your armour over evasion since the weak point is the one-shotability

Quick update, I tried it and it seems pretty nice. You can even drop Grace/Determination and go the glasscannon version and make this and spell suppression your only defenses, along with full arakali pantheon because DOT will really hurt you. This would be of course for pure mapping purposes. Im still working on that -32 chaos res but I would recommend it 10/10 for a high boost in mapping survavility.

Hey, can someone tell me what i can improve? t16 maps are mega easy but i want to know, in which way i can improve farther more.

Also...what do you all thing is the best major pantheon? i am currently not using brine king and i don't think i get stunned very often because everything is frozen. the Random oneshots are a bit annoying.

https://pobb.in/Rmj3-L0LPAJa

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Mettriegel wrote:

Hey, can someone tell me what i can improve? t16 maps are mega easy but i want to know, in which way i can improve farther more.

Also...what do you all thing is the best major pantheon? i am currently not using brine king and i don't think i get stunned very often because everything is frozen. the Random oneshots are a bit annoying.

https://pobb.in/Rmj3-L0LPAJa

The thing that will help you the most right now is levels, and a little more armour. Having a decent amount of energy shield is ok, but a chest piece/helm with base armour could give more value once you can grab the life nodes on the tree and have an HP pool that's more worth protecting.

Other than that, you're basically at the point where it's time to either start investing in some high-end weapons/jewels/jewelry (+2 wep/ammy, power charge rings and/or circles of guilt, even juicier crit multi jewels) OR start saving for a headhunter OR ditch spell suppression and start awakening some items and then probably incorporating Heatshiver to really pump the DPS.

For pantheons, there's no wrong choice, I personally like Lunaris for the speed boost and the avoid chaining because our heralds of purity are prime chaining targets, but Solaris is also nice for avoiding 1-shots, and Arakaali of course helps a lot if you feel burdened by DOTs.

Hello Chronic,

Thanks for the reply and your taughts.
I realy love the playstyle, i can even do t16 with 80% delirium, okay it takes a bit longer but is possible.

So i assume i level to 100 and then think about new gear? Any good strategy for safe and "fast" leveling? Abyss in t16 maps, delve or something else?

How Dangerous it is to ditch spell supression? Does this build get one shotted more from phys or ele hits?

My rings are bad i know. One with extta power charge would improve a lot. I will work on that.

How can i upgrade my weapon besides the skilltree? I was thinking that it aready was very good. Am i wrong? I am currently stacking weapons with good skilltrees that i want to forge.

Would a heatshever boost my damage a öot with my current setup?


Have a great day. 😊

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Mettriegel wrote:

Hello Chronic,

Thanks for the reply and your taughts.
I realy love the playstyle, i can even do t16 with 80% delirium, okay it takes a bit longer but is possible.

So i assume i level to 100 and then think about new gear? Any good strategy for safe and "fast" leveling? Abyss in t16 maps, delve or something else?

How Dangerous it is to ditch spell supression? Does this build get one shotted more from phys or ele hits?

My rings are bad i know. One with extta power charge would improve a lot. I will work on that.

How can i upgrade my weapon besides the skilltree? I was thinking that it aready was very good. Am i wrong? I am currently stacking weapons with good skilltrees that i want to forge.

Would a heatshever boost my damage a öot with my current setup?


Have a great day. 😊

You don't need to go all the way to 100, and there's nothing wrong with a little 5-way leeching to speed up the process no matter how far you're going.

It's definitely more dangerous to ditch spell suppression, but it's an option if you want to get to extreme damage levels. Phys is usually harder to avoid getting one-shot due to the way armour works vs. resistances.

Your weapon is fine, but you can certainly get a lot more from the tree, and if you want to keep spell suppression you need to focus on those gear slots for upgrades.

Heatshiver would boost your single target, but you'd want to move some things around like getting herald of ash and ele weakness in the mix

Hey again,

Thanks for all the answers, these helped aöot.

Currently last questions:
What is your plan? Ditching spell supression and go glass cannon or not?

Can you post your current POB?