[3.24] Ice Shot / Lightning Arrow Deadeye (Or Tornado Shot) - 400%+ MS, League Start Viable!

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K4P0T wrote:

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EzraCrack wrote:

Hi , first of all , i would like to thanks you for your guide ! I am having a blast.

But now i feel that after 100+ divine into the build , level 100 , i will never reach 500k dmg...

Do you mind taking a look at my build and tell me what i need to change / upgrade ? Theres a huge difference in damage between me and you and i wanna reach the high end of that build.

Thanks !

https://pastebin.com/N8G2U1yM

First look - your timeless jewel does absolutely nothing for you.
First improvement would be one that gives you chance to deal double damage and intimidate. Use pob to find the correct one.
Accuracy at 89% is too low.
With flasks up you have around 63% crit chance which is also too low.
I would change all mediums for crit chance with bows, pressure points and quick getaway. Also put in a ring with accuracy. Try to get to 98-99% hit chance and way more crit chance.

https://pobb.in/rx1CrmZ-FMIc

These small lidl changes put you at round 2mil dps. which is still low considering the investment but it's a starting point.
You also invested heavily in life and evasion.

Thanks , after some change , i got now 100% accuracy but i found it hard to get more crit chance... Ive done everything you asked me for and yes i feel more stronger ! thanks alot but now is there any other option i should consider ? Getting a better bow ( edps ? )

( i changed all my medium cluster for the one you asked , i change my timless jewel ( the same as you ) , i change my ring for crit chance and accuracy )

https://pastebin.com/8bgL2nT9

thx again for your help

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yankuch wrote:

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ohmyitsSENSEI wrote:

When to change to crit is a great question, I've been wondering myself what is needed to make the jump easier.

I'm about to hit level 98, done all content except feared and uber fights.
POB and Ninja have me at 595k damage and honestly it's been smooth. Up to 25 challenges so far.

Damage feels less then old lightning strike/poison conc over past leagues. This build is quicker which makes dealing with boss mechanics easier too.

Are there milestones to hit before the transition? And when we do switch over, anything in particular we need to re-config to make is as smooth? (I'm not planning on going OMNI to avoid the full re-spec of gear)

Otherwise, is it even needed? (I guess the ceiling is much higher)

It's definitely not needed to go crit, but if you're trying to push the build deep into endgame content or bosses, I think a good milestone would be to have all the items in the medium budget item set of the progression PoB before transitioning to crit.

The first thing I would do then is drop the artillery ballistae setup in favor of a manaforged arrow setup, consisting of frenzy, power charge on crit, culling strike and inspiration, alongside a high base crit high eDPS bow and crit multi rings / quiver. Then I would look at my PoB and attest my crit chance, if it's not at 100%, I'd swap some medium projectile cluster jewels for medium crit clusters, until crit chance reaches very close to 100%.

I hope this could help you. GL mate you're killing it!

OK, so took the leap and made the jump to crit.
Switched all my MED clusters to crit and currently sitting at 85% with Diamond flash on. Would really like to get as close to 100 as possible and can get close specing towards ASPECT of LYNX, but will need to give up either Graceful Assualt or the flask mastery (hard time deciding between the 2)...what would you give up? Or can I maybe find the points elsewhere from tree?

My current DPS is 1.5M (with 3 mirage archers)

How are others able to get to 1.5M+ without mirage archers?
Looking to also maybe get rid of artillery and link up more with manaforged or run and enlighten with more auras, but not sure the next move here.

BEST build for damage i've played, great guide Yankuch. especially the starter, made it easy!


I'm a noob at POB, but getting better. in checking off for Calcs, I think got right but could use a check

https://pastebin.com/FREnctp6

also, if your checking, any advice would be great but very happy with my end game build.

Hello all,

Are we doing the conversion to physical dmg at very end game or we stay as tri ele crit?

Cheers

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EzraCrack wrote:

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K4P0T wrote:

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EzraCrack wrote:

Hi , first of all , i would like to thanks you for your guide ! I am having a blast.

But now i feel that after 100+ divine into the build , level 100 , i will never reach 500k dmg...

Do you mind taking a look at my build and tell me what i need to change / upgrade ? Theres a huge difference in damage between me and you and i wanna reach the high end of that build.

Thanks !

https://pastebin.com/N8G2U1yM

First look - your timeless jewel does absolutely nothing for you.
First improvement would be one that gives you chance to deal double damage and intimidate. Use pob to find the correct one.
Accuracy at 89% is too low.
With flasks up you have around 63% crit chance which is also too low.
I would change all mediums for crit chance with bows, pressure points and quick getaway. Also put in a ring with accuracy. Try to get to 98-99% hit chance and way more crit chance.

https://pobb.in/rx1CrmZ-FMIc

These small lidl changes put you at round 2mil dps. which is still low considering the investment but it's a starting point.
You also invested heavily in life and evasion.

Thanks , after some change , i got now 100% accuracy but i found it hard to get more crit chance... Ive done everything you asked me for and yes i feel more stronger ! thanks alot but now is there any other option i should consider ? Getting a better bow ( edps ? )

( i changed all my medium cluster for the one you asked , i change my timless jewel ( the same as you ) , i change my ring for crit chance and accuracy )

https://pastebin.com/8bgL2nT9

thx again for your help

I think the biggest improvement to your critical hit chance will be getting a bow that includes that modifier "% increased critical strike chance".

There is a tab in Path of Building labeled "Calcs" where you can go through the various statistics that calculate the build. You can click on any of those stats, and see how the numbers are generated. For crit, it takes the base critical strike chance of your weapon, and multiplies it by a variety of numbers, meaning that a higher crit strike chance on the bow, will massively increase critical strike chance. Swapping the crit multiplier to crit chance (30%) increases your critical strike chance from 75 to 100%.

Also, you should look at the endgame POB provided in the guide, and go to the "configuration" tab, and look how it is setup. POB doesnt know to apply a lot of things, unless you tell it to. For instance, it doesnt know you have power charges, which increase your crit strike chance, or that you have flasks active. This will drastically increase your damage, and be more realistic to what is happening in the game.

Hello again :)
I still struggle with survivability. So i would try to craft a medium flask cluster with increased duration to give it a try. Despite my lack of understanding numbers… what great nodes should i look for? Thanks for any advise :D
And i have LA hits 2 additional enemys on my volls vision… is that okay or should i Go back to berserk +30% effect?
And thx again for this nice zoomer, playing t16 semi juiced maps and i love it. Hope rog drops a new bow and helmet anytime soon ;D
Best of look to all of you!

Heya!

Would it be a bad idea to go Crystallised Omniscience with black sun crest and headhunter? We would miss out on adrenaline value but it would open up a slot for whatever gloves you would want right?

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EzraCrack wrote:

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K4P0T wrote:

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EzraCrack wrote:

Hi , first of all , i would like to thanks you for your guide ! I am having a blast.

But now i feel that after 100+ divine into the build , level 100 , i will never reach 500k dmg...

Do you mind taking a look at my build and tell me what i need to change / upgrade ? Theres a huge difference in damage between me and you and i wanna reach the high end of that build.

Thanks !

https://pastebin.com/N8G2U1yM

First look - your timeless jewel does absolutely nothing for you.
First improvement would be one that gives you chance to deal double damage and intimidate. Use pob to find the correct one.
Accuracy at 89% is too low.
With flasks up you have around 63% crit chance which is also too low.
I would change all mediums for crit chance with bows, pressure points and quick getaway. Also put in a ring with accuracy. Try to get to 98-99% hit chance and way more crit chance.

https://pobb.in/rx1CrmZ-FMIc

These small lidl changes put you at round 2mil dps. which is still low considering the investment but it's a starting point.
You also invested heavily in life and evasion.

Thanks , after some change , i got now 100% accuracy but i found it hard to get more crit chance... Ive done everything you asked me for and yes i feel more stronger ! thanks alot but now is there any other option i should consider ? Getting a better bow ( edps ? )

( i changed all my medium cluster for the one you asked , i change my timless jewel ( the same as you ) , i change my ring for crit chance and accuracy )

https://pastebin.com/8bgL2nT9

thx again for your help

Glad I could help you.

As SirChesticles wrote the next step is getting a higher crit bow.
I'm at the same point now. I'm not really an expert on Phys to cold because I believe in tri-elemental with Trinity.
Sunk more than 100 Deafening ES of Wrath on a promising base but it needs to be perfect. The jump in crit chance you can make with a better bow is insane.
Will try again today since I got enough divs for the meta mods.
Maybe I'm lucky.

Rarity: Rare
Crafted Item
Ivory Bow
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Quality: +20% (augmented)
Physical Damage: 34-103
Critical Strike Chance: 8.32%
Attacks Per Second: 1.57
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Requirements:
Dex: 152
Level: 47
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Item Level: 85
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Adds 28 to 575 Lightning Damage
Adds 165 to 290 Fire Damage
Adds 143 to 257 Cold Damage
Can have up to 3 Crafted Modifiers (crafted)
+25 to Strength and Intelligence
28% increased Critical Strike Chance
12% increased Attack Speed (crafted)
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This bow is the target and not even that expensive to craft.
Casual 24% damage increase and 100% crit chance.

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DemonLord100 wrote:

Heya!

Would it be a bad idea to go Crystallised Omniscience with black sun crest and headhunter? We would miss out on adrenaline value but it would open up a slot for whatever gloves you would want right?

Yankuch did this already. He does a sh*t ton of damage whilst being tanky so I think this is a good path. I miss the currency for an Omni though.
Rage generation can be done through gloves implicit and berserk only activated at tough bosses. With a good crit build you dont need berserk for mapping.

With Volls you can run any belt you want anyways as long as your equipment is not corrupted. I tried it with biscos and it was really good.

Can anyone look at my pob and tell me what's next to upgrade my dmg and survivability?
https://pobb.in/mfHGxHscE685 :)

Can we fit a HH into the non-crit build? Immortal Flesh seems pretty important for berserk, so I dont know how much we would be missing.

I have 3/5 Mageblood div cards from gambling, and thought about selling for a HH if its worth.

Edit: Just gambled 4/5 mageblood cards now. I think I might sell all, and swap to crit omniscience build even though I am having so much fun with non-crit, and have it tweaked pretty nicely.