[3.22-3.23 HC] Quill Rain HOAG Jugg Lives! ~4-6M DPS, 5k+ LGOH/sec. Feared Down 1 Portal. (Videos)

[Update 3.23] Couldn't have been a more perfect league to show off this build's strengths. Currently 96 (and still missing lvl 4 empower) and able to roll through the league mechanic at T16 and 2k+ empowered T16 content. Favorite moments have included facetanking triple empowered T16 harvest mobs with soul eater until they die. Also hit top of the hc delve ladder for the moment. Here are the updates:

1. Barrage of volley fire is an excellent upgrade that makes mapping much smoother, particularly when fully qualitied up.

2. Primal ascendancy is beautiful. I am currently using 30% chance for minions to get unholy strength for 4 seconds on kill (which is excellent for mapping as it has close to 100% uptime) and barrage projectiles have no spread (which is not necessary but is a solid quality of life upgrade).

3. With the new quality mod on Hoag, which gives a base 45 max virulence at 20Q, getting to 70 max virulence is now much easier and frees up 8 nodes for use on defenses on the tree. Or allows you to get to 75 max virulence without voices if you are softcore.

4. I have added in Divine shield, which grants a surprising amount of regen with only 100 ES, (which can help with lingering DOT effects once all mobs are gone) and sanctum of thought which, combined with the armour mastery, gives a total of -60% to monster crit damage. There is an armour&es mastery available after slotting Divine shield that applies 10% of armour to chaos damage. Given the high chaos damage content of the league mechanic, I highly recommend both capping chaos res and slotting this mastery.

5. The loss of the extra reservation from the helm enchant is adequately made up by using a small reservation jewel with uncompromising.

6. Presage is a cheaper annoint than Charisma and appears to be perfectly effective for our purposes.

7. My variation for 3.23 is also fully immune to or unaffected by shock and ignite (chill and freeze are handled hy our ascendancy). To accomplish this I use the appropriate essence to roll a stygian vise with 50%+ chance to avoid ignite and socket an abyss jewel making up the balance of that stat. I then get a total of 100% reduced effect of shock across three ordinary jewels that also have life and res.

8. Bonus leveling tip: starting at lvl 10, blink arrow of bombarding clones + Quill rain is FABULOUS for leveling. You can lvl to 30 and switch over to HOAG or even upgrade weapons periodically and level bombarding clones all through the acts, switching to HOAG at maps once you can already slot at least a couple of pure agonies.

I did my most recent character this way and felt leveling was much faster than usual. I basically blinked and flamedashed from lvl 10 to lvl 68 while the clones killed everything behind me.

In case you are unaware of this tech: selling any mirror arrow with an alteration orb will give you blink arrow of the same type and vice versa.

Current POB: https://pobb.in/z0fAv4l7EL8l

I'll try to get some video up later today or tomorrow. Enjoy.
-O




Original build guide follows:

So, I got tired of dying, like I sometimes do. And I went back to this old favorite build to see what I could do with it in TOTA. I am very pleased with the result and am happy to say it is fully viable. Replica Dragonfang's Flight and Honoured tattoo of the Hunter are nice buffs. The finished product looks different from the original and takes full advantage of the modern Jugg's bonuses to and from armour but the feel of play is the same: Walk up to the enemies and recover more than your full life per second until the scorpion kills them. Move very occasionally. Repeat.

Edit: Actually MUCH more than fully viable. HOAG can now be gotten past the key lvl 29 breakpoint while using a Quill rain set up. See first response for further details. With optimal gear and gems, can near or possibly exceed 6M/sec pinnacle boss dps.

Edit II LEVELLING GUIDE:

Stats at full build:

3.23 Video

3.22 Videos:
Gear

Gems and links:

Ascendancies in order:



Bandits

Pantheon:

Tatoos:

POBs:




I'll check back periodically in case folks have questions or comments. Good Luck!

-Orion

Today's discovery: With significant investment the build can be pushed dramatically further: HOAG increases in power by about 10% each level, but there are two huge jumps--the first is moving from lvl 20 to 21 where attack speed per virulence move from 4 to 5, adding a 25% more multiplier. The next big jump is from level 27-29 where first damage moves from 10% per stack to 11% per stack and attack speed per moves from 5% to 6%. These together supply another 32% more multiplier beyond the usual 10-11% per level. I had previously felt like this was unattainable with the Quill Rain set up, but If you put together:

Lvl 20 or 21 gem
+2 Minion Helm
+3 Dragonfang Amulet
+1 from Honored tattoo of the hunter
+1 from a lvl 5 awakened Minion damage
+1 from a lvl 5 awakened void manipulation (substituted for Vicious proj)
+1-3 from a level 2-4 Empower
(If you are playing in standard you can get a lvl 33 Hoag by substituting a lvl 5 Awakened Empower--I haven't seen any in hc)

You can break the level 29 Barrier with Hoag while using Quill Rain. I can't overstate the awesomeness of this, but I suspect anyone who has ever tried an earlier version of the build will surely understand. If the Dragonfang is unavailable, it is still possible to hit 29 if everything else is near optimal. In HC this would require exactly:

Lvl 21 gem
+2 Minion Helm
Lvl 5 awakened Minion Damage
Lvl 5 awakened Void Manipulation
Lvl 4 Empower
Honored Tattoo of the Hunter or +1 amulet

The Pinnacle bossing dps with this setup is:

Lvl 29: 4.5M/sec
Lvl 30: 5M/sec
Lvl 31: 5.35M/sec
Lvl 32: 5.64M/sec
Lvl 33: 5.95M/Sec

Here's the POB at level 32: https://pobb.in/OofksFZOlOBG

GGG has done a thing rarely done I think. They have given us back a version of a build I had thought lost (nerfed to death) forever that, with sufficient investment, is stronger than it ever was. I don't know how many people who used to play it will ever see this, but I am very, very excited right now and I hope that some of you do.

Good Hunting!

-Orion

Three things:
1) How about Corruption notable and +1 to all Chaos gems. Loose 10% Life and ES when you use a Chaos skill Chaos mastery? We don't seem to spam Chaos skills...
2) What about Vile Toxins support for bossing? I can't imagine a single enemy having less than 8 Poison stacks.
3) What about Faith and Steel notable and 10% of Armour also applies to Chaos damage taken from Hits Armour/ES mastery? Seems niche, but also a nice round-up for an Armour-focused build.

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Sarganis87 wrote:

Three things:
1) How about Corruption notable and +1 to all Chaos gems. Loose 10% Life and ES when you use a Chaos skill Chaos mastery? We don't seem to spam Chaos skills...
2) What about Vile Toxins support for bossing? I can't imagine a single enemy having less than 8 Poison stacks.
3) What about Faith and Steel notable and 10% of Armour also applies to Chaos damage taken from Hits Armour/ES mastery? Seems niche, but also a nice round-up for an Armour-focused build.

1. I skip this because it is inefficient. To take Corruption and the associated +1 Mastery would cost a total of seven additional nodes. I feel these are better spent elsewhere if we can reach at least a lvl 29 HOAG another way.

2. Absolutely true. Totally valid gem swap for Pierce when bossing if you are so inclined. It is only laziness that prevents me from making use of this. Added this suggestion to the guide.

3. For almost all encounters this is probably overkill if we have 75% chaos rez without it. On the other hand, I just nodded off while playing and died to a chaos explosion series of ground effects. Which is tragic and probably preventable with that node. Or by playing a little less POE and getting more sleep :> I may have been obsessing a bit much this week. Time for a little enforced time off. May be worth experimenting with this idea I think.

[3.23 edit--this was actually a great idea for a chaos damage heavy league and I have absolutely incorporated it into the current version of the build. Many thanks! -O]

Appreciate the ideas. Feedback tends to improve the build as we go along.

Good hunting!

-O

Completely failed at taking time off. Instead, went to Standard and got a few new videos added to the Guide that really showcase what the build can do bossing:

Lvl 29 Hoag vs. Uber Atziri w/ Trio Facetank https://youtu.be/YUnQH6uEngk

Lvl 29 Hoag vs. Shaper witnessed by Maven https://youtu.be/MXGNiN21X3g

Lvl 29 Hoag vs. Elder Witnessed by Maven https://youtu.be/G7Pf7895qh4

Lvl 29 Hoag vs. the Feared 1 Portal Deathless https://youtu.be/YTz2lAZOPkE

That last one is my first ever success against The Feared with any build!

-O

Gratz on the feared kill:)
The build is amazingly tanky and the damage is definitely there to get
invitations and bosses down consistently.
I will definitely give it a go as
your old barrage hoag jugg was my first ever hc build that went beyond 90 and killed shaper,katarina 83 and other endgame encounters:D
Cheers!

How is the overall map clearing with that build? Asking as all your videos are from bosses.

Clearing with the crawler definitely has it's own rhythm to it, but I verified last night sufficient clear speed to succeed on a solo Chayula run without losing any time on the clock. I probably should have recorded and posted that. You can get a little sense of how it clears from the Uber Atziri run I posted, though I admit I was being a little sloppy and mostly zooming to the bosses. That said, it will never be a tornado shot--it's real focus is bossing. But the clear is good enough, imo, to level and map comfortably. ymmv.

-O

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killkarabill wrote:

Gratz on the feared kill:)
The build is amazingly tanky and the damage is definitely there to get
invitations and bosses down consistently.
I will definitely give it a go as
your old barrage hoag jugg was my first ever hc build that went beyond 90 and killed shaper,katarina 83 and other endgame encounters:D
Cheers!

Yay! I was hoping that anyone who enjoyed the old version might find this guide. If you fully build out the endgame version, I strongly suspect you will not be disappointed. 😀

-O

Leveling guide has now been added. I might have gotten a little excited about the top end and skipped this the first time through. Fixed. Crafting discussion has also been added to the gear section.

-O