Why dedicate my time if I can lose all my XP with a death penalty?

Sure, I could give it take the other penalties but the xp loss, it creates a hardcore mechanic that I enjoy

I'm sure you're just quoting me like that to wind me up now
Every season I can play long enough to hit 100

What's that telling me

That there not much reason other than to duplicate my previous season effort?

I have diablo for that
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Sure, I could give it take the other penalties but the xp loss, it creates a hardcore mechanic that I enjoy

I'm sure you're just quoting me like that to wind me up now


No, I'm not.

You enjoy a HC Mechanic go play HC. You said you don't have time or patience for it. Neither I and many others have time or patience for 1 portal + Exp loss + on death effects.

I already said in other thread.

6 Portals + Exp Loss = OK
1 Portal + no Exp Loss = OK
1 Portal + Exp Loss = BS

As you, I don't care for the Exp Loss or dying a lot, I don't give a damn to spent 1, 10 or 100 Hours trying challenges like Lord of Cinders, Orphan, Ludwig, Malenia, Messmer, Consort Radahn, Celeste BSides, Hollow Knight Pale Court, etc...

But, feeling the game don't respect my agency in chose Standard or Hardcore, the game don't respect my time invested... it is BS. This Ruthless down the throat attempt is BS.
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Fhrek#4437 wrote:
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A way to play pretend hardcore



There we go.

So, you want to play a challenge mode without play the challenge mode that is already implemented in the game. But, you want that all the other players that don't want to play hardcore to endure a hardcore mechanic that they don't signed for when clicked Standard.

Double standards we call it, right?


A game is a series of obstacles, and this series is known for being tough even on softcore, but likewise you don't like the obstacles, so why do you play the game? [Removed by Support]

No, this is just a stupid argument.
Last edited by Jacob_GGG#0000 on Jan 10, 2025, 2:29:30 PM
Im deinstalling tomorrow if they dont adress on death effects AND single portal per waystone in the upcoming patch/update.

Ive been playing Level 88 since 6 hours today. T14-15.

I was close to level up 3 times today, but with XP loss penalty from the god fkin on death effects (9/10 times I die to this bullshit)

Another 2 retarded invisible on death effects in a row. I just ragequit with 60% xp.

Im done.
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eMkaace#7245 wrote:
Im deinstalling tomorrow if they dont adress on death effects AND single portal per waystone in the upcoming patch/update.

Ive been playing Level 88 since 6 hours today. T14-15.

I was close to level up 3 times today, but with XP loss penalty from the god fkin on death effects (9/10 times I die to this bullshit)

Another 2 retarded invisible on death effects in a row. I just ragequit with 60% xp.

Im done.

I think you mean on Sunday. Today is the 10th not 11th
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Fhrek#4437 wrote:
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Sure, I could give it take the other penalties but the xp loss, it creates a hardcore mechanic that I enjoy

I'm sure you're just quoting me like that to wind me up now


No, I'm not.

You enjoy a HC Mechanic go play HC. You said you don't have time or patience for it. Neither I and many others have time or patience for 1 portal + Exp loss + on death effects.

I already said in other thread.

6 Portals + Exp Loss = OK
1 Portal + no Exp Loss = OK
1 Portal + Exp Loss = BS

As you, I don't care for the Exp Loss or dying a lot, I don't give a damn to spent 1, 10 or 100 Hours trying challenges like Lord of Cinders, Orphan, Ludwig, Malenia, Messmer, Consort Radahn, Celeste BSides, Hollow Knight Pale Court, etc...

But, feeling the game don't respect my agency in chose Standard or Hardcore, the game don't respect my time invested... it is BS. This Ruthless down the throat attempt is BS.


Fair enough (ish) I didn't see any reason for the portal nerf either but as it's early access I thought I'd give it a shot first. Originally I didn't like xp loss either but, call it Stockholm syndrome or whatever, I quickly came to appreciate it and now I look at defenses and death avoidance completely differently to any other game even if I have the safety net of not losing all my gear if I mess up I still feel it adds some jeopardy rather than bashing my head against a wall until I get there

Dark souls this game is not, I get the comparison but that only lasts for the first three acts
Last edited by Strangehill#1736 on Jan 10, 2025, 3:32:11 PM
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Toforto#2372 wrote:
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The main reason there's penalties is so players actually develop skills and feel rewarded for hitting level 95+, especially level 100.
Without penalty, noobies like you would be able to just grind t1 whites for 500 hours to achieve that goal.


No, people can already grind boring safe content to do that. And that makes the game restricting and boring for no reason. How about they give all the hardcore people that think lvl95 or 100 is an """achievement""" in the year 2025 a seperate ladder and race events then? Keep these outdated death penalty mechanics out of the main game. They shouldn't ever exist in any modern game they're just a waste of time and nothing else lmao

No they do not make me develop skills, they don't benefit me in any way. They just annoy me and waste my time. So that means these designs are a complete failure. So they should just change.

Level 100 was never an achievement, never will be.


im with you on that one, 3rd and 4th ascendency are an absolute joke and theres no need for them to be as punishing as they are, its a game for fuck sake, i play for enjoyment when i have the time and having a full time job and a family permits that. im getting no enjoyment out of it already, game will lose alot of players very soon if things dont change.
I hope GGG doesn't go Blizzard and start wrecking their game following feedback like this.

Death penalty is there for a reason. One portal is there for a reason. If you want to play something where you don't care at all for defenses and playing skillfully, just zoom zoom until you die, portal back and keep going........... I don't know, go play something lame. Defense must matter, situation awareness must matter, juicing only up to what you can take matters.

Not saying the game is perfect, there are deaths here and there that are unfair, from crashes, bugs, on death effects you could never have seen behind loot labels+skills+monsters+walls+rubble+map. That's why they are doing the pause and the pause on disconnect thing. The fix is not to go back but to go forward, improve the pause on disconnect, let us log back in to the same exact spot we were, adjust on death effects, adjust loot, etc.
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PARZIVAL#4975 wrote:

im with you on that one, 3rd and 4th ascendency are an absolute joke and theres no need for them to be as punishing as they are, its a game for fuck sake, i play for enjoyment when i have the time and having a full time job and a family permits that. im getting no enjoyment out of it already, game will lose alot of players very soon if things dont change.


Maybe chose a different game? How can you be so egocentric to demand that things adjust to you and your needs. Are you this out of touch?
I mean i also work, i dont have time to learn piano, maybe a little bit, but not to be in the same percentile of piano players as lvl95 char is in PoE. Doesnt mean we should lower the bar on piano skills, the concerts would be really shit all of a sudden no?

If you lower the bar so every dad with 4 kids and two jobs can do everything in the game you get diablo 4


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^this
Last edited by speciesvola#3052 on Jan 10, 2025, 3:46:34 PM

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