Early Access Feedback - Path of Exile 2: GGG Sacrificed Its Community for PoE 1 It’s Time to Demand Answers - Forum

" Deugs#6297 wrote: " bloomhead#3858 wrote: " Deugs#6297 wrote: We didn’t pay to be ignored. We didn’t pay to be sidelined. We paid to play. GGG, it’s time you started acting like it. PixHell-Fusion : https://www.youtube.com/@PixHell-Fusion You paid to be able to play a beta. You are entitled to nothing. The fact that the game is in beta doesn’t justify the lack of communication or seriousness in its development. A harsh negative critique can be just as valuable as constant positive feedback. I wouldn't worry about that guy, he moodily defends this game/GGG on most even slightly negative threads, as if this game is perfection. It's nice he's found his perfect game I guess but the very fact this is an early access game means by definition GGG want our feedback. Whether they listen to it or not is an entirely different thing.	Posted by Mamillian#8657 on Jun 17, 2025, 3:46:47 PM Quote this Post
" Deugs#6297 wrote: " DankWeebTrash#7386 wrote: This is the most entitled post I've seen. They should support PoE1. I've never played PoE1 but the support they give towards it gives me hope that PoE2 will receive the same iterative development, support, and love. PoE2 is kinda a shiny pile of poop with some bits of gold sprinkled in it as it currently stands. However, the support for PoE1 gives me hope it won't always be. You on the other hand are a content creator sowing discourse and shamelessly plugging yourself for views. I say what I think, and I think what I say. The policy of my channel, and my mindset as a former QA on countless games, is to share my experience in good faith. If you’d rather support creators who always stroke the devs in the right direction, there are more than enough of them on YouTube. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve tackled a topic out of honesty and transparency, fully aware it would get very few views. This is my mantra, my bushido: to act with honor and generosity every single day. I live by the truth, hoping to earn respect — not attention. Money and views might be your way of thinking not mine. I’ll keep speaking out loud and clear about the things others stay silent on, out of fear of losing their privileges. Keep your prejudice to yourself. I don't support creators shilling on the forums. Simple as that. Say your opinion. Don't shill your channel. It pretty much invalidates everything you say when you attach "I'm xxx a youtube creator" and shill your channel. Last edited by DankWeebTrash#7386 on Jun 17, 2025, 4:03:01 PM	Posted by DankWeebTrash#7386 on Jun 17, 2025, 3:50:50 PM Quote this Post
shilling his YT channel aside (I smiled when writing this :) he is kind of right. I tried to play over the weekend and I couldn't and "we are sorry" post they did was addressed to POE1 players. at least that's how I got it. "launch was rocky, DDOS, we are sorry". but there was no launch for POE2 and yet I was affected so where's my "sorry"? besides, if that post was also for POE2 players shouldn't it be also linked in POE2 part of the forum? I don't read POE1 news because I don't care about POE1 anymore and if I wouldn't catch the thumbnail and title of some video on my YT home page I would miss it. in the end if that's resolved or at least they are working on resolving this problem I won't complain but I saw this "DDOS, sorry" few times already and it's hard to believe that with all power of Tencent behind them GGG was not able to get rid of the issue all these months since January, because that's when DDOS started to showing up in conversations. I know IT is hard, I know it's cat and mouse game between security devops and people with incentives to break systems but I wonder if it's DDOS only issue or maybe underlying POE infrastructure is bending a bit under 2 games going at same time. Last edited by grapkulec#4892 on Jun 17, 2025, 4:26:45 PM	Posted by grapkulec#4892 on Jun 17, 2025, 4:26:18 PM Quote this Post
I don't think that's the reason. The servers handled 5-6 times more people without issues at launch. In fact PoE 2's launch had a couple of times more players than PoE 1 has ever had. OP, you are just dramatizing the issue and speculating. Keep embarrassing yourself, not a problem for me. HC SSF. What else? Ruthless when?	Posted by vestolevs#5239 on Jun 17, 2025, 4:28:24 PM Quote this Post
" Mamillian#8657 wrote: I wouldn't worry about that guy, he moodily defends this game/GGG on most even slightly negative threads, as if this game is perfection. It's nice he's found his perfect game I guess but the very fact this is an early access game means by definition GGG want our feedback. Whether they listen to it or not is an entirely different thing. Show proof where I've said this is a perfect game. That's your interpretation, because you can't stand the fact that you get rational comments on your absurd feedbacks.	Posted by bloomhead#3858 on Jun 18, 2025, 1:19:11 AM On Probation Quote this Post
Demand answers? lmao what right do you have to demand! Dys an sohm Rohs an kyn Sahl djahs afah Mah morn narr	Posted by Coconutdoggy#1805 on Jun 18, 2025, 2:07:36 AM Quote this Post
" Coconutdoggy#1805 wrote: Demand answers? lmao what right do you have to demand! and what right do you have to use such a dumb oversized avatar? POE 2 got serious performance issues. And so far the devs don't do anything about it or can't do anything about it. Either way it is very bad!	Posted by HeavenlySent#1569 on Jun 18, 2025, 3:56:43 AM Quote this Post
It's not great really... There 100% should be a community post somewhere here (I mean in the POE 2 forums). It's not even on 'known issues'. Tbh it probably warranted pinning to the login page on the weekend (I mean even if they didn't know the cause just; poe 1 has a launch, we're experiencing server issues and investigating, very sorry etc). They have also fairly consistently minimised the issue... Tri's podcast is where they first acknowledge it properly, and that's along the lines of 'well it doesn't look like much of an issue from a bird's eye view, but we're trying to be more granular'. Also 'it's not ddos, we just need to be more on it' to 'oh we're getting mass ddos attacks' is er... yeah. I mean maybe it's changed and the dcs we're getting now are ddos while the ones before - with basically the same symptoms - were not ddos. But... GGG is not a huge team, and the idea that poe 2 has been 'abandoned' and is a 'second class community' is absurd and hyperbolic. But there's no reason not to poke GGG and say 'perhaps pay a bit more attention to the community feedback you say you're reading'.	Posted by cid951#3156 on Jun 18, 2025, 4:25:26 AM Quote this Post
The issues didn't start this weekend just gone, they've just been affecting a larger number of players. I've been having lag/fps/stuttering etc. issues for almost a month now, getting progressively worse with each day. When I bitched about in chat, I was clearly not alone, with other players from around the world on different servers also experiencing the same. For the record, I'm in NZ and playing on Auckland server - although I did try Australia and Singapore, which sent my base ping from 20ms to ~200ms, before quickly spiking to ~20,000ms and disconnecting - weeks ago. Now I get such ridiculous spikes on the Auckland server, with my ping bouncing around from ~40ms to ~250ms almost constantly otherwise. It's not (just) because of the POE1 league launch, and I'd bet a lot of money it ain't "DDOS" - which Jonathan said wasn't really an issue anymore in his recent interview with Tri, before quickly changing the subject - although it's "DDOS" that's the excuse now. Bullshit. Last edited by nilokam#0125 on Jun 18, 2025, 6:09:05 AM	Posted by nilokam#0125 on Jun 18, 2025, 6:07:34 AM Quote this Post
" Deugs#6297 wrote: GGG: The Weekend That Broke the Trust of PoE 2 Players The weekend of June 13–15, 2025, exposed a deep flaw in how Grinding Gear Games is handling the coexistence of Path of Exile 1 and Path of Exile 2. For PoE 2 players, it was supposed to be a normal weekend no league launch, no major update just time to enjoy the game we paid to access. Instead, we got unplayable lag, constant disconnects, and total instability. And the worst part? It wasn’t even caused by anything related to PoE 2. It was the launch of a new league in PoE 1 that completely overwhelmed the servers, dragging the entire experience down with it. Let’s be very clear: PoE 2 players were collateral damage, sacrificed for the sake of PoE 1's continued spotlight. 1. PoE 2 players caught in the crossfire This wasn’t a special event for PoE 2. It was just a weekend which for many of us is the only time we can play. But GGG failed to separate server resources, and PoE 2 became unplayable for thousands. A product we paid for clearly sold as early access was made useless by activity from a completely different game. That’s unacceptable. 2. A second-class community Let’s be honest: PoE 2 players have been treated like background noise. GGG made it clear: they chose to protect PoE 1's experience, even if it meant PoE 2 had to suffer. We’re not free-to-play users. We are paying customers, and we deserve stability, transparency, and respect. 3. The deafening silence All weekend long, GGG stayed mostly silent. No detailed messages. No apology. No plan. In a moment of real frustration for the community, they gave us nothing. That silence speaks louder than any dev blog could. 4. The problem no one wants to say out loud Many content creators won’t talk about this and we all know why. Early access, sponsorships, fear of backlash... it creates a bubble around GGG where criticism becomes taboo. But I’m not afraid to speak. I’m PixHellFusion, and I’m the only content creator on YouTube who’s talking honestly and publicly about this situation. I don’t owe GGG anything I paid for PoE 2, and as a paying player, I have the right to say when things aren’t acceptable. What GGG must do now: Publicly apologize to PoE 2 players Explain how server resources are managed between PoE 1 and PoE 2 Technically separate both games, so one doesn’t impact the other Communicate clearly and regularly, especially when problems occur Final thoughts: This wasn’t a stress test or a major patch day. This was just a regular weekend. Yet PoE 2 players were pushed aside, ignored, and left with nothing but lag and silence. And no GGG’s opinion isn’t needed right now (a direct reference to their infamous "we don't care about your opinion" toward the speedrunning community). What we want is action. Transparency. And accountability. We didn’t pay to be ignored. We didn’t pay to be sidelined. We paid to play. GGG, it’s time you started acting like it. PixHell-Fusion : https://www.youtube.com/@PixHell-Fusion 2.1 is the balance I was waiting for. I'm having a great time, and I just upgraded my supporter pack. I know the economy is bad, and you might be able to gain some money and attention by crying in public. Probably worth running with this schtick, see if it gets you anywhere. But that doesn't mean what you're saying is true.	Posted by DistributedAutomaton#5739 on Jun 18, 2025, 7:04:12 AM Quote this Post