{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

I can't wait until this semester's exams are completed so I can play again. I really can't wait to fuck around with CoD.

Now, if only I could find myself a Mon'tregul's Grasp.

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mattc3303 wrote:

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/More

More isn't added together its multiplied

More(Cod 3.04 * meleephy 1.59 * zombie 1.26) * increased(splash 57 + passive 15 + grasp 100 + sidhe 15 + mstrike 67)


6.09 * 254 = 1546.86%

than add whatever faster attack does another multiplier?

Add in vulnerability into the equation into the more section

after everything multiply the whole thing again by hatred(at whatever ur aura buff is at)

Whoops, thanks for correcting me on that. I thought all this time More was added, then multiplied on the Increases. Does that mean less is treated the same way? You've got the wrong number on Melee Physical, its 49%.

So is this right? (More CoD 3.04 * meleephy 1.49 * Zombie 1.26 * Vulnerability 1.34 * multi .64 * Splash .84) = 4.11 roughly.

That doesn't seem quite right somehow cause that means Melee Splash and Multi Strike becomes a huge damage penalty :(

So using the Increase numbers from before.....

254*4.11 = 1043.94
336*2.76 = 927.36

Yeah, Multi-Strike and Melee Splash are pretty steep penalties it seems.

Edit: I'm gonna guess that Multi's More Increased attack speed balances it out. Replacing Melee Splash in favor of single target DPS would only bring it to a 4.89 Multiplier, so I guess the AoE aspect is worth it as well.

Just to give a flavor on how OP CoD could be:

Cast on Death + Minions (zombies + BMs + Evangelist)
No additional damage support gems
No damage auras
No offensive curses
Fully geared for farming

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Baalat wrote:

Just to give a flavor on how OP CoD could be:

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBCb6KkVRdY&feature=youtu.be

Cast on Death + Minions (zombies + BMs + Evangelist)
No additional damage support gems
No damage auras
No offensive curses
Fully geared for farming

Did the BMs and Zombies honestly have NO damage supports at all? Other than CoD?

What level was your CoD?

That was a pretty insane clear on him, when you can, redo the video with BM supports (Min Life, Min Dmg, Increased Burning, Empower).

Edit: haha nvm, seen you was 88 so you wouldn't be leveling again soon :(

I will try to record that later, but I do not have good offensive gems (maybe lvl 18-19 no Q)

CoD was lvl 15 (Q20)
All raised with Sidhebreath
Zombies 5L: RZ + minion life + IIR + IIQ + CoD (4 raised with grasp + 5 raised with MB)
BMs 5L: RS + minion life + IIR + IIQ + CoD (from Lunaris 3, raised with Chober)
Evangelist 5L: RS + Inc duration + Culling Strike + IIR + IIQ (from Upper Sceptre, raised with MB)

edit:
forgot to mention I have all minion nodes from the tree (damage and life)

I have a quick question that I couldn't find answered anywhere else.

If I use a "+2 to Minion Gems" helm to summon minions and then swap for a helmet with actual stats, will the minions still retain their snapshotted stats from when they were +2'd?

Thanks.

We should have a Summoners Chat Channel going. Any suggestions on a number?
edit: bah.. nvm. Can't have multiple channels :/

overall "faster attacks" should be better than multistrike, the big advantage of multistrike is you only pay the mana cost for the skill once and use it 3 times. zombies dont care about that though (i use it for dominating blow, it also has the neat effect of giving dominated monsters multistrike, rolling golem bosses are funny).

multistrike should be roughly 120-130% overall DPS increase, or just 0.64 x2

Faster attacks is 140% or so, so it wins out.

Although minion damage is "increased" rather than "more", you can still treat it as "more" be calculating how big of an increase it is compared to what you already have.

For example I have 90% currently from passives and lets assume im using grasp for 100%, and my min dmg gem is at 89% (18/20 iirc). going from 290% to 290%+89% is roughly 31% "more" damage, so increased melee physical damage would win that one.

If i didnt have grasp though (i dont) it'd be 190%+89% which is 47% "more" minion damage, which is about the same. That would depend on which color i want in the gem socket really.

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In the above example with grasp, added fire damage actually beats minion damage as well. something to consider.

anyone have good strategies for torture chamber boss ?

even with evangelists its kinda tough to keep spectres alive. I lose evangelists with no LL gem.

minions not teleporting to boss area right away, shocking ground and lw totems that hit hard
the main boss IS squishy but totems are pretty annoying