1.0.1 Patch Notes

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da_neo wrote:

This thread houses some of the most retarded things I've ever read. And I read Youtube comments.

Was it a mistake to nerf CwDT? -No
Was it a mistake to nerf it this much all at once? -Yes
Was CwDT ridiculously overpowered? -Yes
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Bottomline is: A passive spell with which you can disregard any defensive passive node there is, because you have a 100% uptime of a ridiculous amount of defense is just OP. Anyone who doesn't see this needs to reevaluate their point of view.

Granted, changing this so abruptly was a mistake. If GGG takes anything from this patch it should be that they need to introduce these changes much much more smoothly.

A much more gentle way to approach this would have been to do the same thing with the level requirement, BUT change the amount of damage taken to a much lower value. Then from patch to patch up the amount of damage taken slowly bit by bit until the gem is there were you want it to be.

The thing you are doing right now is swinging a pendulum. You introduce a huge nerf, then because millions of ppl are whining how their 15 hours invested lvl 70 char is now completly useless(actually proves the point that this gem was OP) you buff it next patch only to realize that it's too OP again and then nerf it again.

Blizzard makes this very mistake of a pendulum swinging nerf and buff system over 4 years by now. Don't make the same one. Don't be a blizzard *gg*

Anyways these are my two cents here

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Klowdy wrote:

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gordonfreema wrote:

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Zaximus704 wrote:

Lost the will to play. Who knows what gets nerfed next? Why try new things when everyone will whine about being OP and nerf will be incoming? Obviously we have to make casters.

The gem needs fixed to where it's pre-mitigation damage. At least tanks with a lot of defenses who do less damage could get use out of it.

I can't believe you people can't realize how stupidly broken that gem was, you were casting several spells for FREE, it is almost like if you were cheating. Now it has a fair cost/benefit ratio, deal with it.

Thank you, at least a few people here get it. I just assume the people who wanted the gem to stay the same were children with no sportsmanship who want to steamroll games for whatever reason.

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Jakabov wrote:

You really need to address how absolutely horrible the facilities for manual casting of utility spells are if you want to take away the thing that fixed that problem. CwDT is universally loved not because it's a bit overpowered but because it takes away the unbearable burden it was to constantly cast curses, Enduring Cry, Molten Shell etc., especially on characters without faster cast gear/passives.

People were finally enthusiastic about the long-suffering melee gameplay and then you choose to nerf this in a way that completely negates most of its purpose. It should be possible to nerf it in a way that doesn't feel like you finally got a splint on your broken limb only to promptly have it forcefully ripped off again.

CwDT's ability to automate your curse and Molten Shell does not enable some new, previously unavailable power, it just made it bearable where it previously wasn't. Molten Shell has always been available but most ignored it because it's *too fucking irritating to use manually.* The power to spam it was already there, it was just so annoying that people chose not to.

CwDT does not override cooldowns or make skills more powerful, it just relieved a burden so heavy that it previously made most players opt out. Surely nobody can claim that curses and MS are inherently overpowered and should not be usable often -- they always were. CwDT doesn't allow you to do something you couldn't do before, it just removes a problem so big that people solved it by refraining from using some of their skills.

Wouldn't it have been better to, say, implement an internal cooldown for each individual spell linked to CwDT and applying part of their mana cost when triggered? Surely the problem isn't that level 20 MS is too powerful or that the game is too easy when mobs are consistently affected by your curse of choice. If that were the case, people would be using MS and Hex Master in every build.

If you insist on restoring the excessive chore of manually casting several utility spells, you should acknowledge that it *was* too much of a chore before and alleviate the burden somewhat. Perhaps make it so casting a non-damage spell doesn't take a full second for builds in the bottom half of the skill tree. Maybe make it so a higher-level curse doesn't cost like 70 mana, an amount that many builds don't even have available now that auras reserve so much mana that just two of them will take upwards of 90% of your total even when linked to Reduced Mana.

Enduring Cry, paradoxically the one utility skill that wasn't unreasonably steep and cumbersome to use before CwDT, is the only one largely unaffected since its usefulness isn't completely hosed by having to use a low-level gem because using a high-level CwDT is basically out of the question as it tragicomically remains the one skill gem in the game that gets worse as you level it up. The skill that remains useful with CwDT is the one skill that didn't need automation.

Please find a different way to accomplish what CwDT did. It made the game so much better.

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da_neo wrote:

This thread houses some of the most retarded things I've ever read. And I read Youtube comments.

Was it a mistake to nerf CwDT? -No
Was it a mistake to nerf it this much all at once? -Yes
Was CwDT ridiculously overpowered? -Yes
______________________________________

Bottomline is: A passive spell with which you can disregard any defensive passive node there is, because you have a 100% uptime of a ridiculous amount of defense is just OP. Anyone who doesn't see this needs to reevaluate their point of view.

Granted, changing this so abruptly was a mistake. If GGG takes anything from this patch it should be that they need to introduce these changes much much more smoothly.

A much more gentle way to approach this would have been to do the same thing with the level requirement, BUT change the amount of damage taken to a much lower value. Then from patch to patch up the amount of damage taken slowly bit by bit until the gem is there were you want it to be.

The thing you are doing right now is swinging a pendulum. You introduce a huge nerf, then because millions of ppl are whining how their 15 hours invested lvl 70 char is now completly useless(actually proves the point that this gem was OP) you buff it next patch only to realize that it's too OP again and then nerf it again.

Blizzard makes this very mistake of a pendulum swinging nerf and buff system over 4 years by now. Don't make the same one. Don't be a blizzard *gg*

Anyways these are my two cents here

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uzurper wrote:

I agree to the fact that I for one want to feel I progressed and feel more OP over time, otherwise whats the point?! I also understand balance in ladder based leagues but isnt the point of this game to find builds that work no matter the route you take? I mean common i did not sign up for perma butt sex. OP or not, the fix was just bad and supperficial.

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tZork wrote:

Now its a convenience gem for already tanky builds.