Physical Split Arrow Questions

Xigar, essentially, the skill Master Fletcher is great... its just getting there is the problem. You end up spending too many points getting to MF where you could go to another part of the tree and get those same bonus's, in less points. Thats why you dont see it much in builds of this type. At least what Ive noticed.

@Jtrand : High-End Tier 6L SA rises to 50-100k damage (tooltip self buff)

@Zachywak : I mostly Agree to this statement, MF is good by itself but getting there is not "worthy". I would add that playing projectile weakness applies an almost 100% hit chance and put hit rating in a low worthy stats. About the Blood Dance, yes it is really good in end game if you have an average HP Pool and/or frenzy charges running consistantly. Combined with Life Regen Passives you can go 10+ % life regen per second but reaching top tier damage, reflects would stop your damaging (again this is another topic for Vaal Pact against High Regen state that Vaal Pact disables). Don't forget that Life leech & Life Regen are good completing each other.

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Xigar wrote:

I'm testing out a SA ranger build too.
The linked tree looks good, but I have a couple questions:

Is master fletcher near the dualist tree not worth it? It seems like there are some strong nodes also in the dualist tree. Also, at the ranger start, are the evasion/life nodes better than the accuracy/projectile nodes? 4% life seemed weak, so I went the other way and took the projectile nodes, but maybe experienced players disagree?

As long as you end up with something like 80-100% evasion rating and 190%+ increased life it is all good. Always try to balance your defensive output and your damage output.

Also master fletcher is not worth getting to, unless you can integrate the path into your build in a smart way.

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@Jtrand : High-End Tier 6L SA rises to 50-100k damage (tooltip self buff)

Is this still with chain? If it is, I can't see how you can reach this number. Even with the mirrored Glyph Mark bow, with chain, I see most of the people who post guides max out at 30k or so.

The tooltip damage of SA is actually tested under average gear (self found and anything relevant within early leagues) and end game gear (not mirror things, I find absurd to post mirror items and prove a guide on those).

The SA tooltip of the end game bow user (lv 90) shown is 90k dps with the following :
*7 Frenzy Charges up
*4 Power Charges up
*325 pdps Harbinger Bow (nothing incredible or near mirroring but really good instead)
-Mods are the followings :
-166 % Increased Physical Damage (Tyrannical)
-24-51 Flat Physical Damage (Tempered top tier 2)
-31% Local Crit Chance
-9% Attack Speed (Tier 2 if I remember well)
-28% Crit Multiplier
*3750 HP
*Vaal Pact (you know when dealing huge damage is a problem with reflects? its no more)
*No Mana issue whatsoever I just can spam 24/24 in the void.
*Supported Gems (20/20) :
-Added Fire
-Weapon Elemental Damage
-Critical Damage
-Faster Attacks
-Physical Projectile Damage
*Gear is not mirror equal, far away, the highest item would be the Harbinger and the 6L Carcass.

The SA tooltip of the test character (preparing new league - lv 80) shown is 23k dps :
*6 Frenzy Charges up
*4 Power Charges up
*190 pdps Harbinger Bow (3 mods self craft with regal, 4 times occured) :
-44% Increased Physical Damage
-22-50 Flat
-36% Local Crit Chance
*2800 HP (Hp nodes not taken yet)
*not Vaal Pact yet, no problem with reflects yet
*No Mana issues
*Same Supported gems in a Tabula rasa (lv 18 no qual).

Other people do play mirror bow with a bad dps output (I talk about optimization) or simply LG or Voltaxic (which I find really bad for end game).
I spent a long time doing maths on How to max output Damage for Bow users and shared private information on how to have tremendeous damage with ridiculous gear (the 23k dps is achieved with ridiculously poor gear & low leveled gems). Most people relies too much on Chain/Mana Leech/Life Leech to clear when SA already clears everything with a single shot.
The hint is Mana Management and Hybrid Damaging since PoE offers a lot of Physical/Elemental conversion/addition players does not use.
This is practiced by guild mates and private requests from players (I still do not intend to make the Dps guide public) and proven by maths that Hybrid Damaging with Crit is the best DPS solution.

Rowlav - is that with Chain attached in the links?

I am specced out of Frenzy so only have 4 charges currently - but I can only get mine up to like 15k. Lv 91 with a 310 DPS 8.6% Harby bow. And I run around at 10k and melt faces (used crit damage for the tooltip testing but use PCOC when playing).

His build is without chain which explains why his damage is so high. But I figure you also have to consider the dps increase from chain that is not shown on the tooltip.