[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Flamantir wrote:

Hi All,

Could use some advice on my gear. Im now Chain Deadeye but was considering to change for raider as i want to do maps like Atziri and go for t10++ maps. At the moment done T10 with no problem either on mobs or bosses. Problem is to change my Lionseye to avoid reflect a bit on it and then whats next ?

Should i go for quiver and ascendancy change ?

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NeverSink wrote:

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SwiftnessOfZan wrote:

This build can be used with split arrow? I am too lazy to aim.

Yes, replace GMP with Fire damage / Life leech / Life on hit. Split arrow is still good.

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I hope you're going to level that increased duration gem because it's not affected by the CWDT cap.

Really? Thank you, that's very valuable information I somehow missed out on.

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Hey. Nice Guide. I love playing the ranger like this.

But 1 Question. Why do you skip Master fletcher?

3 point 42% physdmg with bow + 2 % increased attack speed

I would give uo Constitution on the left side.

So you could get some extra passive maybe to skill Fury Bolts for example.

Master fletcher is not bad in my opinion, however it's simply weaker than other bow-clusters. If you feel like you can survive a lot, I recommend investing in the "Depth perception" cluster (+accuracy and crit next to the shadow). It will provide a much bigger DPS boost.

Also don't use fury bolts. You spend 2 nodes just to get there. Not worth it.

However, in 78-79 maps I feel like you really want the all the defense you can get. Death is costly even on softcore, since experience is slow after level 85. And the clear-speed of this build is very high anyway.

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Lol I'm so sorry, I meant Pierce instead of Puncture. But got a Drillneck so it doesn't matter. I respecced fully into this build with the current gear:

I'm still not exactly sure what you mean. If you refer to TornadoShot-Pierce, that's because the secondary form of the shot does NOT pierce and deals the most damage. Once it start piercing, the AOE clear of it becomes much stronger.

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

You know that post is from a year+ ago right.

Reading this thread from boredom I'm still always surprised people decide to read this outdated stuff, really just makes no sense. I know Never is working always on the filter and ofc just playing the game, which we can all appreciate, but last like 3 patches all that has been done is changing the patch number in the thread title.

This is fucking painful to read, man. If you are busy I can understand but since you have a monopoly on life based TS build make some updates ffs lol.

Bow builds have evolved so much now you can no longer try to lump all that shit into one post. Ideologies are just way too different, from KOTF Assassin to Voltaxic or Ele to Physical Bow.

Like I get new players seek refuge here but you're not getting the best help possible imo.

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

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Umbral_Spectre wrote:

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

You know that post is from a year+ ago right.

Reading this thread from boredom I'm still always surprised people decide to read this outdated stuff, really just makes no sense. I know Never is working always on the filter and ofc just playing the game, which we can all appreciate, but last like 3 patches all that has been done is changing the patch number in the thread title.

This is fucking painful to read, man. If you are busy I can understand but since you have a monopoly on life based TS build make some updates ffs lol.

Bow builds have evolved so much now you can no longer try to lump all that shit into one post. Ideologies are just way too different, from KOTF Assassin to Voltaxic or Ele to Physical Bow.

Like I get new players seek refuge here but you're not getting the best help possible imo.

TS dead eye remains almost identical at it's core, vastly versatile and flexible!? the tree is the same as it has been since I started playing and literally everyone links you to this guide when you're just starting out. Never writes a good guide, it teaches you stuff, not just carbon copy, meta BS. "Shhh, nevers gonna teach stuff" LoL.

I was also reading through the thread just to see if there was anything I can pick up. I'm at level 75 and tbh the part about the trees in this guide is all over the place, then the comments contradict that as well.

There are no new guides on TS Dead eye, I've been looking for days. theres a reach of the council one that uses a slightly different tree to what I use, but is null as I can't afford that bow.

All I'm looking for is what would be a good idea to grab next, but as I just have to work it out I'm going for health as it can't hurt really.

Don't get me wrong, this guide has taught me almost everything I know in the month and a bit I've played this game (obviously shouts to the band of the hawk as well, my guild are some awesome guys.) and I do get it's old, but the core of this guide holds strong on teaching someone how to make their own build, it;s just the info on the passive trees is a little wrong thats all and was wondering if someone could maybe PM me or something and help me with like the final 15 points or so.. I've managed to get this far, I don't have many free respec points left and would like not to f@ck up as much as pos really.

Seriously tho, props to never, this guide has stood the test of time.. just maybe re-write the paragraphs pertaining to the passive tree's as they are a little mixed up there... maybe we get more free passive points in game or something? I'm probably out of line here. respect though man. Love the filter as well.

PS: replier, dude. I'm a newish player, this is my first build of the league, in fact I only started playing the last few days of Essence. I tested it out to level 50 end of essence so it seemed like the right place to start. I plan on running a lightning arrow or a damage over time (caustic/fire trap maybe) pathfinder. I also have a meta flurry/ancestor and golemancer on the back burner till I'm a bit richer.. I have dabbled in some ballista commander as well as liked that, just wanted a more hands on approach and as you have to aim the TS it felt nice (all those bullethell games in my youth finally transpire into something, ha ha)

PPS: I don't know if I have a reply unless I'm quoted so it takes me a lot longer to reply. if you wante a quicker reply from me in future, just quote my post, please. thanks dude.

You choose to follow who you think is good then.

From my opinion as well Deadeye TS is outdated concept by itself. That's why you don't see many people flocking to it. Pathfinder and now Raider vastly stronger, I wouldn't even endorse Deadeye TS these days without feeling like I was cheating someone.

With Raider buff now Pathfinder and Raider offer insane amounts of utility compared to what Deadeye offers. Can you still do endgame content with Deadeye? Probably. I played it when it first came out still did Uber, old Core maps, etc, but imo the other Ascendancies do it better and more efficiently in the current state.

I suppose at 75 you aren't necessarily thinking that far ahead so what I say is probably irrelevant to you. That's probably why you think a guide 3-4 patches+ without changes is better than "meta BS." (No offense) Whereas in reality with each patch you need to be constantly tweaking so you can challenge all the new content that's coming out. And there's a lot of content that has been added from Uber Lab to Shaper to Breachlords.