[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses
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Deadeye's problem is a lack of utility and defence. Even woth CWDT,arctic atmor and other defensive mechanics it mostluy remains glass canon. Glass canon is good till you are sure nobody will ever touch you, but with desyncs, lag spikes and fps drops you die like a fly. With deadeye i stuck on lvl 91. Recently switched to raider and now i am making progress-slow and steady.Still dying but mostly due to my own stupidity.
" Not at all.It give a solid defensive potential along with nice damage boost from Onslaught and frenzy bonuses. |
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" Well imo the whole build complex isn't really designed to combat the lag. I didnt choose the tankiest path, but something like 5.1k hp, 40k evasion with flask, 20/20 temp chains, Basalt and Vaal Pact should be enough for general mapping (I'm playing some TS/Barrage fire conversion assassin). But if I hit a lagspike in a Breach and my char isnt attacking/moving, Alt-F4 is the only way to live ;). With an EQ Juggernaut or a totem character things might look differently. You can also die due to stupid play, (which i do quite a lot), just wanted to express my opinion that the TS bow chars are not designed for afking / bad lag spikes). Ascendacy-wise Marauder (Berserker), Assassin, Raider and Inquisitor (with Doomfletch Prism) should be better than Deadeye imo [for templeagues] and offer much more flexibility. Champion looks like another reasonable choice, don't have any experience with it though. Deadeye would be decent if the 1/2*dying sun ascendacy node was in front of the "30% more damage as the projectiles travel further" and not the other way around. With the damage potential of "Point Blank" keystone together with barrage for bosses, this node looks kind of mediocre. P.S. Idk about all the discussion about shaper/uber/guardian viable. Some people are able to do Atziri with 6k tooltip dps, other struggle with 30k, something similar is true for other fights as well. Gameplay (as well as pc specs/internet connection) are so important, that a better build can only increase the odds for more people to do endgame content, not guarantee it. The other way around, a very good player might be able to do all the content in the game with an average-good but not optimized build, so Idk. Last edited by juerk#7020 on Jan 3, 2017, 5:27:15 PM
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Hey can someone me explain how the herald setup works ?
Herald of Ice + assassin's mark + curse on hit + blink arrow... ? How does that work... ? I turn on herald of ice, then I blink into the pack of mob so they get cursed and I finish them ? That's seems a little crazy... jumping into pack of mob is only gonna make me insta die... Maybe I am missing something here... :/ Thx in advance :) |
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Since this thread is more viewed than a porn site, I'll post my need for help here.
I stated Breach with a Scion, cause I never leveled one, and decided for a TS build. I'm currently lv86 with Assassin and Deadeye Ascendant, still niss last 2 point from uber lab. Current tree: Current gear:
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TS - LMP (cause with GMP dps is too low) - PPAD - PtL - WED
Barrage - PPAD - Added Fire - Slower Proj - Crit Canche Hatred + HoT - CoH - Poacher Mark (only way to get frenzy) CWDT - IC - ID - Light Golem Problem is that I die too much, I have 4.8k life, capped res, 30 evade + 40 dodge. What is the next thing to change to get a bit safer? (Still very poor on Breach, so don't say RotC o a 6L Belly of the Beast...) |
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" When you shatter an enemy (through critting while applying cold damage to freeze, then killing them while they're frozen) Herald of Ice creates an explosion where the enemy dies which you cleary see, and as the Herald is linked to Curse on Hit + Assassin's Mark, the explosion spreads the curse. Blink Arrow is in there because it's a free single gem slot, and the clone cursing things may come in handy at some point. |
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" Find daresso defiance is also a good choice since it gives: -average Health -Leech -6% dodge -endurance charges that used by CWDT+IC(also find Vortex and temporal chains effective with cwdt) -Onslaught to run away faster Queen of the Forest as an option. Gear: Boots-atziri step, gives hp and solid spell dodge,good to compensate hp from Nest if you take it instead of your current helmet Helmet-rat's nest,solid damage boost Rings- two-stone rings with total 80+ resistances in case if ER is insufficient if you decided to change boots and/or helmet. Use blessed orb to reroll implicits, sometimes it give some freedom and options to change gear. Get rid of energy shield on gear if possible. Last edited by ZerotuL#1517 on Jan 5, 2017, 8:24:24 AM
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" Ok so after a little chat with someone in game... My problem with this Herald of ice setup seems to be that my main attack tornado shot has too few cold damage... Tornado shot : 12312 dps 418 to 887 physical damage 1016 to 2156 lightning damage 19 to 48 cold damage fires 5 arrows ... ... On my 6L i use : Tornado shot GMP Phys to lightning Physical projectile attack damage support Faster Attacks Weapon Elemental Damage support The herald spreading the curse doesnt happen a lot :s EDIT : Ok my problem was because I was runing hate instead of hatred and a fire golem instead of an ice golem... now it's working better :) Last edited by Raizdoe#6842 on Jan 5, 2017, 6:16:16 PM
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I wrote to NeverSink, but it seems he does not play now or does not develop Deadeye.
The biggest problem of mid life builds is one shot. Even with maximum Dodge&Evade and 5000hp rangers regularly die from one shot. Because of normalization of Dodge&Evade chance. We just never be able to have a few minute Dodge&Evade sequence. One shot always comes. So good question what body armours better helps against one shot?! Kaom's Heart - +500 to maximum Life Belly of the Beast - 40% increased maximum Life Kintsugi - 20% less Damage taken if you have not been Hit Recently Lightning Coil - 30% of Physical Damage taken as Lightning Damage The Perfect Form + free Arctic Armour + Iron Reflexes without Acrobatics! (I know no one plays Iron Reflexes. But with new The Perfect Form Iron Reflexes is an interesting idea) I thought about the poor synergy between Ricochet and Pierce. We want, that secondary TS arrows chain mobs. But pierce arrows doesnt chain and just fly away! So Drillneck (and 100% gem\nod pierce) with Ricochet is a very defrauding choice, isnt it?! At same reason Far Shot with Point Blank seems mediocrely. We want to shoot offscreen with Far Shot and shoot at close range with Point Blank. Last edited by Max_ak#2633 on Jan 5, 2017, 8:40:28 PM
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Hey guys,
my setup is no reach of the council and a drillneck, so I decides to to the drillneck skilltree with all the Piercing Shot nodes. As Ascendency I have - Far Shot - Fast and Deadly - Ricochet My Gem Setup is TS-FA-PPAD-GMP-Pierce-Poison. I think I don't do do enough damage as described here. I switched away from PTL-WED because I see tons of mobs with resist elemental damage, where I don't do enough damage. At the moment I can run (or should I say walk) tier 8 Atoll Map or Tropical Island but if I want to go higher I die faster than I can deal damage. 1) Is it better to change Ricochet to Endless Munition ? 2) Is it better to change the nodes from "Piercing Shots" to "Revenge of the Hunted" (I miss them at the moment) 3) If you see general proglem in my gear, please tell mem (my Profil is public(tornadoBaal)), my currency is about 50c, so cannot do alot. Please help me ! baalus |
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@Baalus
some thoughts/suggestions: Skilltree: - you should really pick up that jewel above the Frenzy charge (near Heartseeker)! I would even travel through it and skip the Frenzy charge for it. If you want the "Evasion per Frenzy charge"-node really badly, you can take connect via the jewel socket and pick the charge as a two-pointer. You can get a three-property jewel for 5-15c and sometimes even get lucky with a 4-pointer. -the 3pointer for mana leech (Essence Sap) is an overkill imo. You just need a single 0.4% mana leech to sustain a 6l. So i would suggest, you pick the 4-point-cluster at duelist instead (with some nice life leech). Imo you have (way) too little %life on the tree. The 5% life node in the duelist area is a must. I agree with you on the "revenged of the hunted"-cluster, but its hard to achieve with the way people are building their chars in this thread. Its very hard to get decent life, decent dmg and cap resists with this build, so I personally build the char differently (without phase acro and Atziri boots and skipping a frenzy charge or two) and get a lot more life and dmg instead. Equip: Bow looks decent for this stage and should carry you far into the red maps. You can still look out for underpriced rare bows or a Reach. Imo you have very little offensive gear. Even if you keep Atziri's Steps you can squeeze in a Rat's Nest if you replace most of your other gear, which is a great damage boost. You can also enchant your gear or look for some enchants, which can boost your damage a lot. Some more concrete suggestions: -Since you are going pure phys, WED on the belt is almost pointless. You can opt for a rustic/leather belt with T1 life + tri-res instead (or dual res+Str, because those are cheap for some reason). -With the additional res, you can skip the helmet and buy a "Rat's Nest". If you don't feel like having enough life with a Rat's Nest, buy a Starkonja's as a filler-helmet, it provides at least some dmg. You can look for a cheap (but useful) enchant on those as well. the rings and ammu aren't great. You opt for a dmg ammu with diamond/steel rings later, but those aren't always cheap I guess. Still I think, you can improve your jewellery by getting a ring with high life and very high res and a dmg ammu with crit-multi + phys dmg for now. Gem-Setup: The main TS-Setup is sort of fine, I think you miss a some dmg compared to something like Ele-conversion and penetration (you can look up my Assassin-Char in Breach for comparison), but its still better than PTL-WED imo. You could get a lot more of your char by using more secondary setups though. - you can put Empower in the offslot - if you are going poison, assassin's mark is not the best curse you can get^^. Try using temp-chains (defence+some offence) or vulnerability (full offence) instead. If you manage to 5l your Bow, something like Frenzy-COH-GMP-curse-PC on crit [btw RoTC allows you to put this in a 4l as a sidenote]. Since you got plenty of space for gems, you can probably get away with not-5l it and doing something like: Frenzy-PC on Crit Ice shot-CoH-GMP-curse. I don't have enough experience with siege ballista but idk if its doing enough on a 4l as it is, so I'd skip it for now?! - you don't run any vaal-setups. Without Vaal Grace the whole setup with spell dodge is pointless. (you get 10% additional dodge and 44% spell dodge for 4 Skill points + an inventory slot but miss out 34% dodge and 34% spell dodge on a single gem. So you better stack those for bosses/breaches. ;) - Vaal Haste is a free substantial dmg boost. Link one of [vaal haste/vaal grace] to your inc-duration setup like VH-CWDT-IC-ID - you can use a decoy totem to buy yourself some dps time or an enduring cry for dmg-reduction. -later [T14+] you can think about doing a single-target-setup with barrage on a 5l and gemswap for bosses [TS 5l for adds, Barrage as a 6l] Flasks are very decent, you can maybe replace the jade with a basalt, but that's personal preference. You can't really run both without QotF/going CI so that's a matter of taste. The suffix "of grounding" would be stronger on the 2. life flask..but I've made the same "mistake"^^. Sorry for this wall of text, but maybe it helped, so^^ EDIT: you need some accuracy on your gear too, like +300 on your gloves or one of the rings. Completely forgot about that earlier. Last edited by juerk#7020 on Jan 6, 2017, 5:41:41 AM
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