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gemboy wrote:
I do not think our reactions will change something over new nerfs, item degradations etc. Thay did what thay wanted to and thay dont care, couse thay predicted theese reactions.
I doubt thay even read theese posts.
It's more likely thay laugh on most of us.
Im very dissapointed couse I see what direction thay move this game.
I remember once , this was a great , prommising game,
BUT NOT ANY MORE.
Thay're loosing themselfs " in the space ".
So many stupid changes and nerfs, and yet thay did not solve HUGE problem that exist from very beginning of the game, fuckn LAGG AND DESYNCH.
They better invest their time and money to improove networking software and infrastructure to make this game playable but doing fuckn nerfs on almost anything.
This is total disprespect to anyone here
I have already decided what to do.
GRIM DOWN is a game that promises a lot and is better in many aspects but this game.
At least, GRIM DOWN developers listen to their supporters.
Definitely give up this game and move on GRIM DOWN.
Ye, you can remove my post now. Just do it pls and fuck off forever.
fuck
Rant and whine, okay. Insult the devs, no. Advertise another game, NO. Not spell check ANYTHING, NO!
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FFFF
knew i shoulda bought more vinktars ... :(
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Posted byCaoMengde#7666on Mar 3, 2016, 2:29:24 AM
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Well STANDART CRY ALOT, WELL DONE GGG, WELL DONE, nice nerfs
Omg standart pple can lost some divines! Thats really crazy for pple who got mirrored gear...
Omg pple on standart lose 15 sec time clear speed on map, omg....
Omg thats really hard to find new Abissus on standart....
Hehe, how many pple quit if HC come for ALL
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Posted byultraZel#7724on Mar 3, 2016, 2:30:52 AM
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Not happy with vinkitar change.
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Posted byWarcryLegion#6721on Mar 3, 2016, 2:32:28 AMBanned
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Arno92 wrote:
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Snorkle_uk wrote:
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Dark_Chicken wrote:
Basically the new values for other items not specifically named, will be TBA as some put it, but it's a safe guess to assume ~50%.
no they quite specifically stated that
"all items, passives and some skills/support gems that used to have increased Critical Strike Multiplier are now 33% less effective on players, despite having the same value."
which is "everything is nerfed by 33% across the board", then they say some specific things have been increased to escape the nerf and they list them. Its not safe to assume everything not mentioned is getting a 50% buff from what Im reading there. What I see is that its safe to assume everything not specifically mentioned falls into...
" all items, passives and some skills/support gems that used to have increased Critical Strike Multiplier are now 33% less effective on players, despite having the same value."
" A number of these have been adjusted in value to maintain similar effectiveness."
You missed it at the end. Quite important sentence, Crit multi isnt nerfed by 33%. They compensate numbers to counteract the wording change.
yes they say a number have been adjusted, thats another way of saying "some" things have been adjusted, not "all" but "some" things, and then they list things that are being adjusted. They also seem to list the things that are not adjusted, which includes all rare item mods. Nowehere do I see them say that all crit multi will be buffed by 50% to compensate, quite the opposite.
This change is primarily about a damage shift, not a wording change imo, and rightly so. This is why people have been suggesting a change from increased to additional crit multi for a while now. You roll an RT mirrored gear sword reaver/cleaver, get 50-100k dps. Roll one with a crit dagger, get 100k to 400k dps... its like double to quadruple the damage potential along with surgeons procs, ele status effects, crit is off the charts insane and now with ascendancy you can roll an assassin arcer with a crit strikes gem who has over 10% base crit on his arc? Thats more than my mirrored max roll incision platinum kris has right now.
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Posted bySnorkle_uk#0761on Mar 3, 2016, 2:36:57 AM
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vinktar?
think about that
instant life/mana leech on 1 click of a flask
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Posted bystipen#4207on Mar 3, 2016, 2:38:03 AM
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Snorkle_uk wrote:
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xlFate wrote:
Im extremely curious, in that case, how do you even bless/divine mirrored items? And also, doesnt that make the existing highly valued items shitty. In standard, iirc, I've been in it for approximately 3 years, everything i have now will be destroyed since I've been playing crit builds since forever.
nah nah youre good man, dont sweat it. Basically if you have a mirrored vaal Rapier you lost 10% crit multi, thats it. Everything else is fine, you will lose damage on crit builds this is true, but your rare items are fine, even if they are mirrored and cannot be modified. Your old values of 38% increased crit multi will change to 38% additional crit multi, this will be exactly the same value as the 38% additonal crit multi that will be the t1 roll on all new items. If you have a legacy 70% increased crit multi it will change to 70% additional crit multu, which will still be 32% higher than the highest possible current roll, will still be best in slot, still be legacy, still be the top roll on in the entire game.
Youre gonna lose some damage on your crit builds right, maybe 25% of your damage, and then you are going to get a massive damage boost from ascendancy and enchantments that is going to give you all that damage back and then a load more on top while you get all this other stuff like phasing and regening and jet pack steve or whatever insanity your ascendancy is granting.
Trust me I know that patch panic, I have mirrored daggers and all manner of nonsense, 10k hours invested in my current characters etc. But this time round were happy campers mate, in the overall picture we got insanely buffed across the board and with a few exceptions all our items still hold their relative value. With mirrored gear its just the Rapiers from what I understand, if you cant bless it you lost 10% crit multi, which you probably get back from a small ascendancy pathing node somewhere in your spec. If you have a mirrored rapier, what did it cost you? when I was looking to buy one they were about 180ex, now theyre worth a shitload more than that, I bet your rapier is worth at least 60 exalts more right now than what you paid for it, at least, you lost 10% multi against mirroring the rapier again right now where mirrors are worth a ton more than when you got the sword. Given the choice would you chip in the extra say 80 exalts to mirror that thing now with 10% more multi? If the answer is yes then sell your sword, add 80ex to it and then remirror, you have that option. The guy with a perfect Abyssus, ya he got a bit rekt, sry man, but then a normal abyssus is 1c vendor trash its not like your skyforths just got jacked. The dude with the perfect vaaled maligaros, hes fine malis arnt changing.
Almost everybody is fine and most peoples whos relative wealth in items changed actually earned money because their unique flasks and daggers are now positive legacy rolls.
great post
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Posted byultraZel#7724on Mar 3, 2016, 2:43:35 AM
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heres the way i read the crit/crit multi changes.
old crit/multi values even legacy max cannot equal the new ones.
the new crit values will be 33% higher at max teir. (this makes sense because the lvl of base teir white items will be higher to obtain) only because it went from a multiplier to additive. legacy doesnt change. the new top teir values will be 33% higher.
its not destroying old builds or gear its creating a new market for new mirrored gear which will be better.
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Posted byleighferon#0786on Mar 3, 2016, 2:44:00 AM
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gemboy wrote:
I do not think our reactions will change something over new nerfs, item degradations etc. Thay did what thay wanted to and thay dont care, couse thay predicted theese reactions.
I doubt thay even read theese posts.
It's more likely thay laugh on most of us.
Im very dissapointed couse I see what direction thay move this game.
I remember once , this was a great , prommising game,
BUT NOT ANY MORE.
Thay're loosing themselfs " in the space ".
So many stupid changes and nerfs, and yet thay did not solve HUGE problem that exist from very beginning of the game, fuckn LAGG AND DESYNCH.
They better invest their time and money to improove networking software and infrastructure to make this game playable but doing fuckn nerfs on almost anything.
This is total disprespect to anyone here
I have already decided what to do.
GRIM DOWN is a game that promises a lot and is better in many aspects but this game.
At least, GRIM DOWN developers listen to their supporters.
Definitely give up this game and move on GRIM DOWN.
Ye, you can remove my post now. Just do it pls and fuck off forever.
fuck
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Yes please do us a favor and never go back to PoE you funny, angry kid :P
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Posted byKingoko#5987on Mar 3, 2016, 2:54:18 AM
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nice, thanks. cant wait
btw cant find the notes about what counteracts the huge power creep we get from the subclasses, enchantments, new flasks, skills, etc.. (besides that slight crit multi nerf)
also, increasing linking chance by 20%? Id like to say that once you start listening to the whiners, you are on highway to hell:) No matter what you do, they will still complain. The more you give, the more they want;)
cheers
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Posted byLudvator#6587on Mar 3, 2016, 2:56:06 AM
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