Chaos damage and why it hurts the game in it's current form.

Look up Invalesco's youtube video explaining his hardcore righteous fire build (watch?v=mLBeEomNBMk). It focuses around high energy shield, low health (~2k) and no health regen. He still does fine in maps against chaos damage.

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Knots wrote:

Look up Invalesco's youtube video explaining his hardcore righteous fire build (watch?v=mLBeEomNBMk). It focuses around high energy shield, low health (~2k) and no health regen. He still does fine in maps against chaos damage.

2k isnt low health, he must have taken at least 8-10 health nodes to reach that much.

Stacking Health and ES nodes together is no different to just stacking either one.

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bhavv wrote:

Who? You? The person that cant even beat cruel difficulty?

Have you even spoken too or heard from anyone that has actually beaten merciless and is playing end game maps right now? Now you havnt, and dont even try to pretend to talk on their behalf, you're nothing but an insult to those players.

Stop arguing via ignorance. I already told you this isn't about me. This is about you, your complaints, others who are doing things that contradict your complaints. GET THIS DOWNLOADED. It's not that hard to grasp, but you choose to not grasp it because you know I'm making a hell a lot of sense right now. You're all in denial, and refuse to admit it.

And this is exactly why you're ignorant. Someone just mentioned that there is a cleave/shield duelist on hardcore doing maps. You tunnel vision everything that tells you're wrong, then you attempt to make me look foolish when you made yourself foolish the moment you decided you knew more than you actually know.

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bhavv wrote:

2k isnt low health.

My point exactly. Ignorant. Beyond repair.

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Deceptionist wrote:

Someone just mentioned that there is a cleave/shield duelist on hardcore doing maps.

And he took plenty of health nodes too, herp derp!

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Deceptionist wrote:

My point exactly. Ignorant. Beyond repair.

2k HP with 10k+ ES is completely fine to deal with chaos damage. Try again with 700 HP at level 65 because all you took for defense was ES nodes, and then learn and overcome your own blatant ignorance.

Get better gear. 90% of you arent even end game merci farming maps like stated...

You are playing a game where atm, the only end game gear drops in high level maps..

Now if that sentence right there doesnt strike a light in your head then nothing will.

QQ moar.

BTW I run maps with -60 chaos and im melee.

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bhavv wrote:

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Deceptionist wrote:

Someone just mentioned that there is a cleave/shield duelist on hardcore doing maps.

And he took plenty of health nodes too, herp derp!

Did you forget that the Duelist doesn't have as much access to HP nodes as other classes do? Or were you too busy adjusting the wool on your face?

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Deceptionist wrote:

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ziggro wrote:

LMAO U R NOT IN MERCILESS? BYE NOOBA

Lol. You don't know what you're talking about it if people are doing exactly what you claim isn't possible. Way to be logical, mate.

Let me spell it out for you: MY EXPERIENCE DOESN'T MATTER IF OTHER PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES CAN DEFEND THE POINTS I AM TRYING TO GET ACROSS YOUR IGNORANCE. YOU SEEM TO FORGET THAT I'M USING OTHER PEOPLE AS A FRONT. NOT MY OWN EXPERIENCE. SO YOU AREN'T MAKING ANY SUBSTANTIAL BREAKTHROUGHS BY ASSUMING MY LACK OF EXPERIENCE MEANS I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.''

Jeez, you guys are naive.

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HAHA i can only lmao you now.


TROLOLOL LOLOL LOLOL

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Deux wrote:

Get better gear. 90% of you arent even end game merci farming maps like stated...

You are playing a game where atm, the only end game gear drops in high level maps..

Now if that sentence right there doesnt strike a light in your head then nothing will.

QQ moar.

BTW I run maps with -60 chaos and im melee.

+1 I haven't made it to Merciless (been busy researching and composing music to do so), but my marauder is doing perfectly fine. I haven't even tried to put any effort into my skill tree. I can, though. I will make it to merciless, and it won't be just to shut up the ignorance of these people. It will be because I enjoy this brilliant game.

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bhavv wrote:

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Knots wrote:

Look up Invalesco's youtube video explaining his hardcore righteous fire build (watch?v=mLBeEomNBMk). It focuses around high energy shield, low health (~2k) and no health regen. He still does fine in maps against chaos damage.

2k isnt low health, he must have taken at least 8-10 health nodes to reach that much.

Stacking Health and ES nodes together is no different to just stacking either one.

so, taking 5-6 health nodes from like 90 skill points is now "stacking" ?

its best we dont take health at all ? what do you think its there for if build without any point in health invested could faceroll entire game without problem. who would take any health node that way ?

So to add some actual intellectual comments to this besides "you suck noob" or "LOLTROLL"...

Chaos Damage is supposed to be quite harmful, it always has and hopefully will continue to do so. I believe the change in -% resistances for Chaos Damage through the difficulty penalties was mainly due to the changing of Chaos Inoculation.

With the removal of +50% more Energy Shield, adding a deeper value to Chaos Resistances would keep Chaos Inoculation a viable keystone while moving it towards a more niche keystone to take - which was the goal of the change.

If it was easy to spec into chaos resistance, then chaos inoculation would be an absolutely worthless keystone - right now it has value due to the high amounts of chaos damage that's in the game.

Currently there's enough resistance in the game that can be had from gear to counteract the -60% resistance penalty for chaos damage. That brings everyone up to par with what they would of been had the changes not been made in the first place. Further adding to that, over the -60% mark for the penalty would begin to add to less of a need and more of an added defense, like any other defense in this game.

Unless you've planned a highly defensive character, then you should never expect to just be tanky-beefy against every type of damage/situation. With that mentality, you're trying to play superman and the superman OP character is exactly what PoE is NOT supposed to be about. You have to pick and choose what you want to be defensive to, and pick and choose what battles you take and what battles you need to go around.

I would argue, that the bottom portion of the passive skill tree could use a sprinkle of chaos resistance nodes - just so that health based classes do not necessarily HAVE to spec into chaos resistance mods on gear and have other options of defense apart from flasks.

Other than that though, that'd be my only complaint currently.