Path of Exile 2.4.0: Atlas of Worlds Patch Notes

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sagiterios wrote:

i play 5 builds. a CoC, a RF mjolner, a frost wall kinetic blaster, a spark inquisitor and a SRS witch.

CoC may survive IF the cooldown is counted per spell and not per trigger. Overall still seems to have taken a huge hit.


RF mjolner just got destroyed. You still need to socket in an arc or something to guarentee max charges for discharge, so the sequential casting by itself makes this a huge nerf. This means half as many discharges and half as many arcs in the same time frame. HALF the dps. On top of that, it randomely deals 35% less damage if you trigger it. Really you should swap that around and give it more if you dont (or buff numbers to compensate). On top of THAT you have limiting cooldowns of currently unspecified amount. Hopefully this is going to be a very small number. This was my main build, the one i had invested the most time and effort into. I am not even sure if its gonna work anymore. The sequential change has violated the sprit of mjolner builds. You have simply said "you are no longer allowed to do what this item was supposed to do" I cannot be more disapointed.

my kinetic blaster can still function vs groups but really this came out of the blue. Frost wall was used to augment the damage of on hit procs (lightning arrow, kinetic blast, etc) when you didnt have enough targets to properly proc it against. This was a Seriously Cool interaction. I thought it was an amazing thing to include. and yes, people probably abused it too hard. it was possible to get WAY too many procs off. SO by all means, limit it. make it so a single wall can only result in 4 procs before it ceases to help (or something). But removing the mechanic entirely just feels awful.


I play this game because it allows me so many options towards sucess. There is a set of rules, and it is my challenge to find a way to bend around them to pump the most i can get out of the system. Bypassing cast speed was my favorite mechanic in the game, and now you have basically tried to remove it. This is a persistent issue with the balance team at yur company. when a mechanic gets out of line, hit it with a nerfbat, bring it into line. I would happily take the 35% less discharge damage if it promotes the health of this wonderful game. but that is not what you do. when something is out of line, your default response is to haul the GIGANERFER 3000 out of the closet and just bash it into oblivion. You did it to incinerate. now youve done it to mjolner. and you dont havee to do it, i have seen you do things right. Your changes to SRS a while back successfully maintained the skills identity while bringing it more into line with other skills. you adjusted and reworked the skill just enough to achieve the desired result. Doing simultaneous compounding nerfs in the same patch feels unnecessarily targeted, and can have such a profound impact on the mechanic that it just struggles to exist (see:incinerate). Slow it down. IF the mechanic is troublesome, aim to reduce one aspect of its functionality, bring it into line. And evaluate whether it achieved its goal. I am hoping this will still be workable, but if it isnt, PLEASE RESPOND AND REEVALUATE. when you nerfed incinerate, you basically compounded nerfs on until it was almost unusable, then never went back and looked to make sure it was in decent shape.


I was truly looking forward to this expansion. I was preparing and planning for weeks. I even bought a supporter pack (with my extremely limited funds) because i believed in this company. and now i feel betrayed. I am not excited, i am not hopeful, i wish i could have my money back because i have lost faith in the decisions of this company.

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sagiterios wrote:

i play 5 builds. a CoC, a RF mjolner, a frost wall kinetic blaster, a spark inquisitor and a SRS witch.

CoC may survive IF the cooldown is counted per spell and not per trigger. Overall still seems to have taken a huge hit.


RF mjolner just got destroyed. You still need to socket in an arc or something to guarentee max charges for discharge, so the sequential casting by itself makes this a huge nerf. This means half as many discharges and half as many arcs in the same time frame. HALF the dps. On top of that, it randomely deals 35% less damage if you trigger it. Really you should swap that around and give it more if you dont (or buff numbers to compensate). On top of THAT you have limiting cooldowns of currently unspecified amount. Hopefully this is going to be a very small number. This was my main build, the one i had invested the most time and effort into. I am not even sure if its gonna work anymore. The sequential change has violated the sprit of mjolner builds. You have simply said "you are no longer allowed to do what this item was supposed to do" I cannot be more disapointed.

my kinetic blaster can still function vs groups but really this came out of the blue. Frost wall was used to augment the damage of on hit procs (lightning arrow, kinetic blast, etc) when you didnt have enough targets to properly proc it against. This was a Seriously Cool interaction. I thought it was an amazing thing to include. and yes, people probably abused it too hard. it was possible to get WAY too many procs off. SO by all means, limit it. make it so a single wall can only result in 4 procs before it ceases to help (or something). But removing the mechanic entirely just feels awful.


I play this game because it allows me so many options towards sucess. There is a set of rules, and it is my challenge to find a way to bend around them to pump the most i can get out of the system. Bypassing cast speed was my favorite mechanic in the game, and now you have basically tried to remove it. This is a persistent issue with the balance team at yur company. when a mechanic gets out of line, hit it with a nerfbat, bring it into line. I would happily take the 35% less discharge damage if it promotes the health of this wonderful game. but that is not what you do. when something is out of line, your default response is to haul the GIGANERFER 3000 out of the closet and just bash it into oblivion. You did it to incinerate. now youve done it to mjolner. and you dont havee to do it, i have seen you do things right. Your changes to SRS a while back successfully maintained the skills identity while bringing it more into line with other skills. you adjusted and reworked the skill just enough to achieve the desired result. Doing simultaneous compounding nerfs in the same patch feels unnecessarily targeted, and can have such a profound impact on the mechanic that it just struggles to exist (see:incinerate). Slow it down. IF the mechanic is troublesome, aim to reduce one aspect of its functionality, bring it into line. And evaluate whether it achieved its goal. I am hoping this will still be workable, but if it isnt, PLEASE RESPOND AND REEVALUATE. when you nerfed incinerate, you basically compounded nerfs on until it was almost unusable, then never went back and looked to make sure it was in decent shape.


I was truly looking forward to this expansion. I was preparing and planning for weeks. I even bought a supporter pack (with my extremely limited funds) because i believed in this company. and now i feel betrayed. I am not excited, i am not hopeful, i wish i could have my money back because i have lost faith in the decisions of this company.

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holytimes wrote:

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CMDR_Storm wrote:

Both Hyped and Depressed about the changes.

Hyped about the Atlas Expansion, hideout changes, and 4 core processing.

But absolutely heart broken over the nerfs to CoC, Juggernaut, EQ, and Blade Vortex. (Not to mention to Voltaxic Rift and Consuming Dark before this.)

It takes a very long time to level up these builds into the 90's and save currency to get really good gear. It really sucks when you save up forever to get the gear for your next build, finally get it, and then wham-gets nerfed.

And with certain nerfs, monsters now have more life. So it's like a double whammy. Instead of one or the other. Why not do small incremental changes?

Also, what does it matter if a couple builds can kill bosses fast? Let us players have fun. It's not like any of them are dropping extremely expensive OP uniques anyway. And if they do, GGG will just nerf them. (Reach of the Council)

There's a reason certain builds become meta---because they work. I would love to have a build for every skill, but the truth is certain skills, no matter what the build, wont get you through end game maps reliably.

I've seen several friends (who have played since Beta) quit because they tired of having their builds nerfed. And I think I'm not far from the same point. Again, it's depressing to save up exalts for months to try that awesome build, only to have it ripped out from under you once you get there. And to those who say you can make an exalt an hour....BULLSHIT!

They dont do incrimental buffs cause they can only buff or nerf when there is no league, also they don't balance around perma leagues want to stop dealing with your builds getting rekted? Play temp leagues.