[R.I.P.] life Mjolner done right by Rico - Juggernaut version - R.I.P. thx to "balancing" policy

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RicoKGB wrote:

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the_Alexomator wrote:

I think I finally got an idea on how the Indigon calc works.

I had the feeling that my damage was lacking but I think I can solve the problem with two Fevered Minds rather than with a 6-link.
Anyone got any other ideas for my build to work on?

I also have a question regarding the calculator. When I enter the Mana costs from PoB they already include the for example 200% mana cost increase from two fevered minds. Why does it have to be added in the colum below too?

Beacues that calc doesnt know if ur mana cost is just from gems or gems with increased cost. Same goes for everything else: you must include all the data in order to have proper results.

I haven't read all about indigon but i was wandering too the same question i think. I've fever mind + indigon, when i've used 200+ mana did im using the buff ? because whatchin in real time the stats nothing change... i've made a few weird changes on this build; a SoulEater-RF-Discharge build 'n shit, seems good, funny for sure !

Ok I almost nailed it:

My Indigon Juggernaut vs T16 Mino:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvNn6LvFALA


625k sustained Shaper DPS. No RF. Just Atziri Flask + Oak and Arcane Surge 50sec buff. Now I need slightly more mana regen (currently sitting at 950/sec). My current gear:



PoB pastebin @ lvl 92

Indigon stacks


I have yet to try:




Im planning to do a video guide on this toon.

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EDIT: Some more vids:

T16 Double Boss Necropolis with monster life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTuw7e5HwVo


Shaper run wiht Phil aka double Mjolner fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ188oCc81c

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Doklol34 wrote:

philophil
Ye, maybe, but its a really hard to calculate what the real AS\CDR must be. Ayway, you have no troubles with Resists\Mana, you can try the different jewels to make different numbers of AS. But on my jugger, i need to get resists, hp\mp, regen on my jewels, and its a much harder to get a many AS for free.
Think, we need a rico's cdr table and a tons of minotaur maps xD

I reduced m AS to 4.65 with 20% CDR and it seem to work really well. I did some searching related to AS/CDR and so far everyone has come to the same conclusion with some slight difference, its all pretty much the same number has rico tabs. Now i believe that we shouldn't take accuracy has a factor because its useless to get more attack speed since 90% of the time u won't miss so u would be waisting alot of proc if u where to increase ur attack speed in proportion to ur accuracy.

Also u might want to look at a pathfinder or getting flask effect since it boost the movespeed alot if u are using

Hi guys,i was out of town for a few days.

philophil
Nice to hear it. Yeз I, too, watched similar themes about Cdr and seen like the same numbers. Sure ive seen your flask. I have near the same on the league, and do some tests with the different flasks.

But, even with my regen (~1450) after ~6-7sec of flask it's so hard to sustain mana under load without breaks or using a longer cyclones.
Here i got 3 mino tests.

1) With my "Experimenter's QS of Adrenaline" 43%ms under cyclone. 2 pops - 13s. Oak\Atziri\AS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyylCQAeFfg
Here i start going out of mana, before boss dies.

2) With my "Alchemist's QS of Adrenaline" 60%ms under cyclone. 1 pop - 3.5s.
Oak\Atziri\AS\RF.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPndIVnv9WE
Mana was high, get enought stacks from start, with RF multiplier, looks better.

3) With my "Alchemist's QS of Adrenaline" 60%ms under cyclone. 2 pops - 7s.
Oak\Atziri\AS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Kpc2HSCB8
Mana goes out a much faster, enought to kill mino w\o mods.

My opinion about flasks. Great start boost, but we can't sustain flask more that ~6-7s after this time we start going out of mana very fast.
One pop Alchemists' with rf, looks a much better.

Here is my Delve Jugger. Now i think, i done all of the core of my build (lvl 95) Some slighty improvements, maybe further, like 2x clarity Watcher's or some changes with jewels. But now, i get 5600\5200 mana and 1451 mana regen, and, now, i don't see how i can get a more mana\regen, when i can keep my resists\as\hp etc.

https://pastebin.com/LSGCxKH6 (I don't add the calc number's)
Indigon calc
I got the first RED number after 33s. (Sure, at base cyclone AT) and, in my opinion, it looks good.

Id say u can reach more dmg by some optimization if we ignore $$$

id start by +1 power charge indigon, a phys dmg taken has ele corruption on saffel, using unnatural instinct jewel on the scion mana/regen wheel, get any immunity to silence jewel,if possible a +1 max res voll's devotion and the last upgrade could be double clarity.

Ur rare ring is pretty good id keep it maybe if u want a crafting goal, try to craft some GG belt with CDR/mana recovery/t1 strenght, but that might cost alot to make, or just aim for similar mod with a 20% CDR.

But so far ur gear is petty good for early league, by the look of the minotaur kill the build has great potential.

philophil
You're 100% right. That's my dream, to get indi with +1pc on the league, but i think its near to imossible to see it in the shop, i get a bit more currency, then a buy in a bulk then vaal it. Then, sure, good Saffael and Clarity. But, idk about voll and belt, it's sure, very good upgrade, but if i drop +16 allres on my voll i need to change jewels, or take PoE. Same as +20%cdr belt now a have around 3.9aps, plus 12%recovery on belt to mitigate movement errors\ping. BUt right now, if i get the +20%belt, idk where to get more aps. Anyway now a focus on +1 indi, then, we will see.

The video guide on Indigon life/MoM version is up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbAnPk8zuco


Tell me what u think.

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Doklol34 wrote:

philophil
You're 100% right. That's my dream, to get indi with +1pc on the league, but i think its near to imossible to see it in the shop, i get a bit more currency, then a buy in a bulk then vaal it. Then, sure, good Saffael and Clarity. But, idk about voll and belt, it's sure, very good upgrade, but if i drop +16 allres on my voll i need to change jewels, or take PoE. Same as +20%cdr belt now a have around 3.9aps, plus 12%recovery on belt to mitigate movement errors\ping. BUt right now, if i get the +20%belt, idk where to get more aps. Anyway now a focus on +1 indi, then, we will see.

yeah im not sure about +1 max res voll's with ur setup since res seems kind of a issue id mainly focus on indigon/jewel has u said rest would be more mid league optimization.

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RicoKGB wrote:

The video guide on Indigon life/MoM version is up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbAnPk8zuco


Tell me what u think.

Well i think its a mazing video..... cannot not make a joke on how short it is ;)

I think that most ppl should watch it, i think it answer most of the question ppl are asking.

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RicoKGB wrote:

The video guide on Indigon life/MoM version is up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbAnPk8zuco


Tell me what u think.

Well done, Rico, think, it can be very helpfull to guys who can go out of pure Life Mjolner to Life\Mom Indigon Mjolners.