[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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- Your shield could really use an upgrade. The block chance is low, the spell block percentage is also low, the increased crit strike chance is pointless for a summoner.
- Empower level 1 doesn't do anything. Level that in your off set of weapons until at least level 2. Better yet, just buy a corrupt level 3.
- You really need to link Whirling Blades with Fortify to mitigate incoming damage. Ideally, WB / Fortify / Faster attacks.
- Jewels. You really want all your jewels to have life or mana for Mind over Matter, then minion damage / minion leech / minion regeneration. For the minion damage, avoid the flat elementals that aren't fire based. The ones where your minions do more damage if you've used a minion skill recently are fine, just use an offering skill to trigger them.
- Ascendancy. You've taken Spirit Eater instead of Commander of Darkness. CoD will boost your elemental resists and your damage. Spirit eater only boosts damage.
- Drop the Int node left of Agility for the other dex node Expertise.
- Flasks. You should never need more than 2 health potions. Upgrade to Eternals. Consider picking up a Rumi's flask to max your block.

That should keep you in things to do for the next little while, anyway. :)



so i changed my ascendency. using aura now and gonna for for some mana in next times. gonna buy the flasks too. ty a lot. and for last what do you think about this change in shields i found this for 25 c and got it fast i think its good .
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grimjack68 wrote:
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spark_Kegs wrote:
Very good clear speed with 4x Solar guards in a 6L + Flame golems combo in elder helmet.

Swap GMP for Slower projectiles vs bosses.
Someone on global 6666 last night suggested Point Blank instead of SP. At 20/20 it's 48% increased plus 50% more as long as you get up close and convocate.


I'm running 4 SG with a 5l vis mortis and I just started mapping today. What gems do you run for your SG setup?

I'm hearing a lot about the golem + primordial jewels setup as well but I'll maybe try if the prices drop.
For anyone interested, I use the same build with 3-4 ice golem in helmet, 3 solaris champion + 1 lunaris champion, thought its just meme, turns out i could farm all guardian in 15 secs, and extremely safe with taunt on attack, dps should be more than enough for shaper but i dont really have interest to try (done enough this league with nothing but gloves).
I think people here really could use some experiment,OP already outline the guide fo tankest version of necro, with abyss jewel and elder/shaper item, most none viable spectre + golem combo could work out well for even the hardesr endgame boss.
is controlled destruction working with solar guards or should i put minion resistance back in?
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Reasd21 wrote:
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- Your shield could really use an upgrade. The block chance is low, the spell block percentage is also low, the increased crit strike chance is pointless for a summoner.
- Empower level 1 doesn't do anything. Level that in your off set of weapons until at least level 2. Better yet, just buy a corrupt level 3.
- You really need to link Whirling Blades with Fortify to mitigate incoming damage. Ideally, WB / Fortify / Faster attacks.
- Jewels. You really want all your jewels to have life or mana for Mind over Matter, then minion damage / minion leech / minion regeneration. For the minion damage, avoid the flat elementals that aren't fire based. The ones where your minions do more damage if you've used a minion skill recently are fine, just use an offering skill to trigger them.
- Ascendancy. You've taken Spirit Eater instead of Commander of Darkness. CoD will boost your elemental resists and your damage. Spirit eater only boosts damage.
- Drop the Int node left of Agility for the other dex node Expertise.
- Flasks. You should never need more than 2 health potions. Upgrade to Eternals. Consider picking up a Rumi's flask to max your block.

That should keep you in things to do for the next little while, anyway. :)



so i changed my ascendency. using aura now and gonna for for some mana in next times. gonna buy the flasks too. ty a lot. and for last what do you think about this change in shields i found this for 25 c and got it fast i think its good .
Excellent buy. I'm running one very similar:
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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SolemnKnight wrote:
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grimjack68 wrote:
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spark_Kegs wrote:
Very good clear speed with 4x Solar guards in a 6L + Flame golems combo in elder helmet.

Swap GMP for Slower projectiles vs bosses.
Someone on global 6666 last night suggested Point Blank instead of SP. At 20/20 it's 48% increased plus 50% more as long as you get up close and convocate.


I'm running 4 SG with a 5l vis mortis and I just started mapping today. What gems do you run for your SG setup?

I'm hearing a lot about the golem + primordial jewels setup as well but I'll maybe try if the prices drop.
I'm personally running raise spectre : spell echo : GMP : minion damage : elemental focus. I have Controlled Destruction leveled and waiting for when I get a 6L.

I *think* the golems / primordial jewels are for better clearspeed with Tukohama's Vanguards, but they might add to the quality of a Solar Guard build as well. I haven't tried them.

I'm currently running Projectile Weakness for a curse, even though it only applies to the little hits - the lazer beam isn't tagged as a projectile. I like the pushback and the pierce on mobs, even if the damage increase isn't as good as Flammability.

I'm running an Animated Guardian using Leer Cast, Zahn's Cassock, Dying Breath, Victario's Flight, and rare gloves with life and resists.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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For anyone interested, I use the same build with 3-4 ice golem in helmet, 3 solaris champion + 1 lunaris champion, thought its just meme, turns out i could farm all guardian in 15 secs, and extremely safe with taunt on attack, dps should be more than enough for shaper but i dont really have interest to try (done enough this league with nothing but gloves).
I think people here really could use some experiment,OP already outline the guide fo tankest version of necro, with abyss jewel and elder/shaper item, most none viable spectre + golem combo could work out well for even the hardesr endgame boss.


Yeah the abyss jewels add a lot dps for minions. Why do you choose such spectres? How about stacking added damage jewels and go kitava's herald?
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wiwigvn wrote:
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For anyone interested, I use the same build with 3-4 ice golem in helmet, 3 solaris champion + 1 lunaris champion, thought its just meme, turns out i could farm all guardian in 15 secs, and extremely safe with taunt on attack, dps should be more than enough for shaper but i dont really have interest to try (done enough this league with nothing but gloves).
I think people here really could use some experiment,OP already outline the guide fo tankest version of necro, with abyss jewel and elder/shaper item, most none viable spectre + golem combo could work out well for even the hardesr endgame boss.


Yeah the abyss jewels add a lot dps for minions. Why do you choose such spectres? How about stacking added damage jewels and go kitava's herald?


I chose these because they DON'T seem to work, so mostly for laugh since we all know how to beat all content with strongest ones, however it works. stacking flat damage could work for low base damage spectre, but kitava herald probably not very compatible with it, its base damage already high, and not very fast on cast/attack. One way to stack with flat damage is new jewel with 600 increased crit chance, but we have to change the passive tree for it, therefore a whole new build.

I also tried lighning golem with those big spider in harvest, also work great in endgame(T16). next, i think i could try to work on something with shaped gloves, with slower projectile and fast castering, maybe i could fit skelly mages with it, instead run with mages.
does anyone know, does the IMMOLATE gem work with burn specters (Tukohama vanguards and Wickerman)? is the added fire damage f@cking up ur elemental equilibrium ?

there are the new possible 7 link helms (minion damage, burn damage, immolate), are they usable with Elemental Equilibrium and burn specters?

Ty
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I chose these because they DON'T seem to work, so mostly for laugh since we all know how to beat all content with strongest ones, however it works. stacking flat damage could work for low base damage spectre, but kitava herald probably not very compatible with it, its base damage already high, and not very fast on cast/attack. One way to stack with flat damage is new jewel with 600 increased crit chance, but we have to change the passive tree for it, therefore a whole new build.

I also tried lighning golem with those big spider in harvest, also work great in endgame(T16). next, i think i could try to work on something with shaped gloves, with slower projectile and fast castering, maybe i could fit skelly mages with it, instead run with mages.


Thank you for such great information. So perhaps we should stack attack speed for Kitava's Herald? Crit may be difficult to stack even with Victario's


I think people have been testing lots of monsters but with this patch and abyssal jewels, a lot may need to be reviewed and re-tested.

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