[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

Hi, I'm sure this question has been asked before, but what skill points should I swap out of to take Necro Aegis to run Tukohama shield? Thanks!
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cichyx666 wrote:
Guys if I'm using TV and FG vararion of build should I use 3 flame golems or 2 flame golems and stone one?


Hows the clear speed with 3 FGs


Figured I'd post my first Uber Atziri kill as well.

Running 3 TV's + 3 FG's, only needed one portal. Had a really close encounter with both trio and Atziri herself, but that was mainly due to inexperience rather than build.

When she was at ~20%, two of my TV's died due to them standing on a heavily layered FB that I couldn't convocate them out of, so it's really important to link a cull in with your spell of choice - mine being Arc. Had they all died, there would be no way that my FG's would be able to deal with the minion phase so I got a bit of a lucky break that one stayed alive.

This brings me to my main point though - FG's begin to rapidly lose value in t15+, and eventually fall off a cliff in shaper and especially Atziri. I may go back to TV's and SG's since I am now mainly farming t15+. This is at least from my experience. Your mileage may vary.

Overall though, for those who are intimidated by Atziri, don't be. 1) You got a very nice playground to learn her mechanics in that which is regular atziri. 2) Block/Spell block is insanely good.

Vaal 2 Raise Spectre yesterday and got lucky.

Might come back to one of my favorites build for last leauge and this leauge.

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Figured I'd post my first Uber Atziri kill as well.

Running 3 TV's + 3 FG's, only needed one portal. Had a really close encounter with both trio and Atziri herself, but that was mainly due to inexperience rather than build.

When she was at ~20%, two of my TV's died due to them standing on a heavily layered FB that I couldn't convocate them out of, so it's really important to link a cull in with your spell of choice - mine being Arc. Had they all died, there would be no way that my FG's would be able to deal with the minion phase so I got a bit of a lucky break that one stayed alive.

This brings me to my main point though - FG's begin to rapidly lose value in t15+, and eventually fall off a cliff in shaper and especially Atziri. I may go back to TV's and SG's since I am now mainly farming t15+. This is at least from my experience. Your mileage may vary.

Overall though, for those who are intimidated by Atziri, don't be. 1) You got a very nice playground to learn her mechanics in that which is regular atziri. 2) Block/Spell block is insanely good.


first time playing but when people say 3 TV's + 3 FG's what is their 4th spectre? or am i missing something
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Wukufyze wrote:


Figured I'd post my first Uber Atziri kill as well.

Running 3 TV's + 3 FG's, only needed one portal. Had a really close encounter with both trio and Atziri herself, but that was mainly due to inexperience rather than build.

When she was at ~20%, two of my TV's died due to them standing on a heavily layered FB that I couldn't convocate them out of, so it's really important to link a cull in with your spell of choice - mine being Arc. Had they all died, there would be no way that my FG's would be able to deal with the minion phase so I got a bit of a lucky break that one stayed alive.

This brings me to my main point though - FG's begin to rapidly lose value in t15+, and eventually fall off a cliff in shaper and especially Atziri. I may go back to TV's and SG's since I am now mainly farming t15+. This is at least from my experience. Your mileage may vary.

Overall though, for those who are intimidated by Atziri, don't be. 1) You got a very nice playground to learn her mechanics in that which is regular atziri. 2) Block/Spell block is insanely good.



done my uber this league today as well, AG really shine here, end trio last phase and atziri split phase really fast that i not only dont die, i dont even get hit, but I would recommend unslot it when she's at 20%(just like you), she hike up her cast speed pretty fast there, and many storm call overlay each other, almost one shot my AG with 22K+ hp, unbelievable.

FG is definitely not useful with TV in shaper&uber atziri, but mapping T16 is not a problem with them, thing is, if you are farming those big two, just bring a skull head, 4TV beat anything, your SG will feel underwhelm as well.

Quickly run another Uber with 4 SG and 3 FG, 9 abyss jewel with speed mod, not bad, but did die 3 times, kind of messy cause SG really dont know how to stick with the 4 breast queen, i run they run, what the hell

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pelicanada wrote:
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Figured I'd post my first Uber Atziri kill as well.

Running 3 TV's + 3 FG's, only needed one portal. Had a really close encounter with both trio and Atziri herself, but that was mainly due to inexperience rather than build.

When she was at ~20%, two of my TV's died due to them standing on a heavily layered FB that I couldn't convocate them out of, so it's really important to link a cull in with your spell of choice - mine being Arc. Had they all died, there would be no way that my FG's would be able to deal with the minion phase so I got a bit of a lucky break that one stayed alive.

This brings me to my main point though - FG's begin to rapidly lose value in t15+, and eventually fall off a cliff in shaper and especially Atziri. I may go back to TV's and SG's since I am now mainly farming t15+. This is at least from my experience. Your mileage may vary.

Overall though, for those who are intimidated by Atziri, don't be. 1) You got a very nice playground to learn her mechanics in that which is regular atziri. 2) Block/Spell block is insanely good.


first time playing but when people say 3 TV's + 3 FG's what is their 4th spectre? or am i missing something


probably not run vis mortis, tabula is way cheaper
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done my uber this league today as well, AG really shine here, end trio last phase and atziri split phase really fast that i not only dont die, i dont even get hit, but I would recommend unslot it when she's at 20%(just like you), she hike up her cast speed pretty fast there, and many storm call overlay each other, almost one shot my AG with 22K+ hp, unbelievable.

FG is definitely not useful with TV in shaper&uber atziri, but mapping T16 is not a problem with them, thing is, if you are farming those big two, just bring a skull head, 4TV beat anything, your SG will feel underwhelm as well.

Quickly run another Uber with 4 SG and 3 FG, 9 abyss jewel with speed mod, not bad, but did die 3 times, kind of messy cause SG really dont know how to stick with the 4 breast queen, i run they run, what the hell




Here's what I noticed - after I made my post, I went back to 2/2 TV/SG and for t15 and guardians, I am liking it a lot more than FG now. The "secret" ingredient is 2x Unending Hunger. FG just cannot compete with 2x unending hunger for your SG's for map clearing. I don't know why I ignored these jewels before, but whatever power that FG's had for t10-t14 clearing, they do not match what SG's can do for t15+. I'm literally whirling blades non stop (other than bone offering cast) and my SG's are blinking around and instantly dropping packs. FG's could not do this in t15-t16 with beefy mods like minion life and resistances, etc. I had to stop a lot more often.


As for Atziri and Skullhead, I will definitely have to try it. Although I would lose some substantial DPS because I am basically using a 7link with



But I did gain a 4th spectre again (went back to Vis Mortis over Belly when I ran FG's) so it actually wouldn't be too much of a loss in damage.
Last edited by Wukufyze on Jan 3, 2018, 2:20:11 AM
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probably not run vis mortis, tabula is way cheaper


he has a vis tho
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pelicanada wrote:
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probably not run vis mortis, tabula is way cheaper


he has a vis tho


When I ran golems I dropped my vis for belly

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