[Outdated] Ultimate EDTrickster [2M dps - UNKILLABLE]

Question about leveling as league starter (practice for next league)

What kind of level would be wise to use Eldritch Battery?

Giving up the protection of ES too early seems not so handy (?)
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Darkxellmc wrote:
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dsxy wrote:
assuming no major changes, I think this will be my league starter for 3.12, looks a lot of fun


Keep in mind the absolutely insane items available everywhere are mostly from harvest, and this build benefited a LOT from them. The amulets and quivers for ED in harvest are ridiculous.

But yeah, it'll be just as strong as last league, probably a bit more, like every league.


thanks, I learnt that the hard way a few leagues back when I planned around a budget darkscorn build!
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dsxy wrote:
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Darkxellmc wrote:
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dsxy wrote:
assuming no major changes, I think this will be my league starter for 3.12, looks a lot of fun


Keep in mind the absolutely insane items available everywhere are mostly from harvest, and this build benefited a LOT from them. The amulets and quivers for ED in harvest are ridiculous.

But yeah, it'll be just as strong as last league, probably a bit more, like every league.


thanks, I learnt that the hard way a few leagues back when I planned around a budget darkscorn build!


Well, this time around it'll be the same for pretty much every build.
Yeah, rip 1c darkscorns after the buff, I also thought they'd be a budget super nice niche item, but not at all XD

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baboen wrote:
Question about leveling as league starter (practice for next league)

What kind of level would be wise to use Eldritch Battery?

Giving up the protection of ES too early seems not so handy (?)


I personally don't really care if I die once or twice during leveling.
EB is good early on because it solves mana issues and removes anoying flask management.
While it's true that your EHP pool is diminished from it, it doesn't really matter. You don't have much ES to begin with without your ascendancy combo or an endgame helmet, as there's not much ES on gear and no es scaling on the tree. Besides, ES early on isn't up much. You don't kill mobs fast, so they hit you and interrupt it all the time. You also don't have a large pool, recovery rate or regen which would make it up, meaning it's often sitting at 0 waiting endlessly for recharge timer instead of protecting you.

TLDR: ES early is shit anyways, you might as well use it as mana. Keep it in hardcore just in case, I suppose?
So I am not really feeling this build due to it feeling clunky.

Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Doesn't feel too unkillable although I am missing a lot of skillpoints.

I'm only lvl 70ish but have crafted all the high end budget gear.

Would love to know what a normal map rotation and boss rotation looks like end game. Cheers.

Oh and with the helm...if I have the endgame helm and lvl 4 enlighten. What do I put in the 4th socket with auras? lvl 4 empower?
Last edited by Hemzo#2288 on Aug 26, 2020, 8:01:15 PM
Hey i just found your guide i build around ur recent post (pob) and if you have time take a look at my char should be public :)
btw i know my gems are not lvld but tell me pls where i can change smth i have around 400c and if you see some improvements i would happy to hear


love ur guide much love <3

Edit : also what is the rotation of the build i have the wither totems they kinda help with a dmg boost but arent necessary also when do i know how to use blight and vaal blight i read tthe whole guide but im new to ED

PS: also my english is garbage i understand everything but my writing is pure shit
Last edited by cronosthephoenix#3393 on Aug 26, 2020, 8:13:29 PM
I realised empower gives +125% mana multiplier so counters enlighten haha what 4 gem should I be putting in helm with auras and enlighten??
Hey! Great guide, used this build the entire league honestly. It even does 100% delirious t16s.

I think I'm pretty happy with the gear and build, but I thought maybe if you had a moment you could look over my gear and see if anything jumps out as being a bad call (my profile is public)? Some choices were definitely a bit different than what you suggested. (it's got a HH and onslaught/aspect in weird spots, as well as immortal call)

Here's to hoping nothing bad happens to the build next league!
Last edited by Arkontas#3585 on Aug 26, 2020, 11:49:20 PM
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Hemzo wrote:
So I am not really feeling this build due to it feeling clunky.

Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? Doesn't feel too unkillable although I am missing a lot of skillpoints.

I'm only lvl 70ish but have crafted all the high end budget gear.

Would love to know what a normal map rotation and boss rotation looks like end game. Cheers.

Oh and with the helm...if I have the endgame helm and lvl 4 enlighten. What do I put in the 4th socket with auras? lvl 4 empower?


you don't seem to have a character on your account? It's private anyways, we couldn't see tham and help you :/

Early on, I'd recommend putting flesh and stone (sand stance) in, and use it instead of the aspect. It provides a huge defense boost that's well needed as long as you don't have everything in place and rolling.

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cronosthephoenix wrote:
Hey i just found your guide i build around ur recent post (pob) and if you have time take a look at my char should be public :)
btw i know my gems are not lvld but tell me pls where i can change smth i have around 400c and if you see some improvements i would happy to hear


love ur guide much love <3

Edit : also what is the rotation of the build i have the wither totems they kinda help with a dmg boost but arent necessary also when do i know how to use blight and vaal blight i read tthe whole guide but im new to ED

PS: also my english is garbage i understand everything but my writing is pure shit



The rotation is:

Trash: Contagion, ED, run.

Anything that doesn't die in less that half a second from ED : also apply a few stacks of blight to help. Spreading rot will increase your ED damage, and blight will add a layer of deeps to take care of the mob quickly.

Boss: Pre-cast a few wither totems,ED as soon as the boss spawns, and blight him down. Vaal blight while you're blighting, why not. For maximum cheese, use your flasks (especially witchfire) to place the smoke cloud on the boss. If you're melee range, he'll most likely stay in it. Make sure to refresh your ED every 4-5 seconds to keep the consistant damage and regen.

Gear wise, Idk. You have very basic gear, that'll be totally fine if you're clearing yellow maps.

If you are in red maps and have a budget of 400c, you're doing something very wrong. You should either have a much higher budget from seed selling, or much better gear.
A pair of matatl's boots with t2+ life and t2+ of each resistance is trivial to craft with harvest, for exemple. Are you not interacting with the mechanic at all? If not, sell your seeds. ilvl76+ go for at LEAST a .5c per seed, you'll make 7-8c each map, o 1ex every 20 maps. You'll double your 400c budget in 50 maps, by JUST opening the cache, not even killing monsters inside.

Also, buy a level 21 ED. Don't level a lvl17 gem, you'll want to buy a 21 anyways. It's like 50% more damage, so get it now.
Craft movementspeed on your boots, also...

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Arkontas wrote:
Hey! Great guide, used this build the entire league honestly. It even does 100% delirious t16s.

I think I'm pretty happy with the gear and build, but I thought maybe if you had a moment you could look over my gear and see if anything jumps out as being a bad call (my profile is public)? Some choices were definitely a bit different than what you suggested. (it's got a HH and onslaught/aspect in weird spots, as well as immortal call)

Here's to hoping nothing bad happens to the build next league!


I don't like your bow. int + dex gems suffix, even on a chaos damage synth bow, is imo inferior to liquefaction+onslaught+movementspeed (or double movementspeed). Gotta go fast.
With the strength from HH, you could run a lvl 21 steelskin. Is IC better than a high level steelskin?
Quality your hyrri's to 28%, enchant your boots for 10% more movementspeed (use the new lab, I suppose), consider getting an arcane surge ring.

Nothing really stands out, great character overall! ^^
I don't get it...
Can't kill Sirus or any Blight entcounter - have not even tryed the timeless domain

Could anyone have a look what are my worst mistakes?
Budget is quite low

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Sorry I was the one posting before as Hemzo...not sure why I had that second account but must have logged in to wrong one lol.

Got the trash rotation down pat and was doing what you said which works well but am still very squishy...only level 80 currently without a large cluster.

I think my gear is quite good? Not sure..take a look for me and tell me what I need to do.

Been in ter15/16 maps since lvl 70 so not too worried about that, I just have to be careful of getting 1 shot.

Looking forward to having you sus out my character and telling me what to do. (I understand I need gem levels still and am working on that ;))

Also I don't really use blight as everything is dead with just one tick of contagion + essence drain. Should I be using blight just on bosses?

I'm considering dropping discipline as I feel it doesn't benefit the build much? So I have 2 extra sockets in the helm I have no idea what to do with...give me some ammo to put in there for end game.

I will most likely use the CWDT chest setup to maximise defences. (Other lvl 100 is a glass cannon of a spectre build doing like 100m dps) so wanted this to be my tanky biatch.
Last edited by Hemzokuken#3433 on Aug 27, 2020, 8:43:00 AM

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