I was tinkering yesterday how to utilize CWC with maintaining Zombs and Skells.
Firstoff, idk if its worth it yet, we need to sacrafice stuff. In my case Auras.
Current Setup:
Out of Chaos right now, otherwise I would buy 2 Unset Rings for more Slots.
Bonus Thoughts
I also was thinking how to add another route to the build with stepping out of the Weapon Game, and use something different. This is related to use CWC in our boots (or gloves) while maintaining 1k+ Str with baron.
With the CWC Setup in the boots I might be able to squeeze in zombs in the rotten Legion, but that will be an whole other type of summoner build. I'm just doing it cuz i'm curious.
I don't think that this type will excel any better than the actual one, but the mapping clearspeed could be higher tho, we'll see.
Soulwrest isn't really the way to go, as you want to scale minion levels. With soulwrest you'd have more minions dying faster, which just leave you fucked even faster in late game. Rotting legion is useful for sure, however you'd be better off scaling minion levels in your weapon instead of using the pseudo 7 link.
I saw the earlier Grave Intentions discussion. What are thoughts on Grave Intentions vs Indomitable army? On the face indomitable army looks better, but if people are seeing zombie deaths due to metamorpth chaos degen, bumping chaos res from 20% to 51% (via Grave Intentions) may be the better move.
I'm about to invest my endgame animated guardian gear, and I really don't want the guy to die to a random meta.
Physical damage has never really been a problem for minions as far as my knowledge goes. However the chaos degen is insanely hard for minions this league, so stacking chaos resist is quite needed.
all of my zombies die insantly with breach in t2 maps, something is very wrong, and i was doing the spirit offering Cyclone setup too, i tried everything
I call utter bullshit. You are exegerating 100%. Zombies aint dying in white maps at all, I literally lost 3!!!!!!!! zombies during all my time in white maps (don't even know how honestly) and since i have my 6 link staff they didnt die vs ele weakness 100 cold as extra t15 maps....
And nothing makes my zombies tankier then yours besides some gem level that I also didnt had when I was running t2 maps...
Either way you still dont have a offering, you still have no proper setup for support specter
Looking for some insight from anyone who is currently running this build who is also doing red maps, specifically t13-16. I am doing the "King of all summoners" build and it is very rippy in the high tier red maps and I am utterly tired of dying to the metamorph bosses and conquerors.
Has anyone gotten this variant to the top end maps? I don't want to quit the league already.
You can check my profile for my gear which isnt much. I did some t15 with decent rippy mapmods and had no problem. I made me aware to finally fix my lazy ass flask setup (dont judge xD) but as long as you have the 5 link cwc setup and überlab done you are kinda immortal besides mayor fuck ups. The damage on the bosses were...okay. It isnt great but honestly no build with equal investment would do better honestly and alot wouldnt even be able to run that content. I have a were shallow skele setup remaining to support damage, but I am not sure if they are ven pulling weight anymore.
We all know what a big powerup the empower gem is, awakend gems now aswell etc. If you are decked out the build most likely will have way enough damage.
Dunno guess in tier 15+ a 5 link doesnt cut it anymore (I mean you can do stuff, but it would be more time effecient to run yellowmaps until upgraded).
I died once to this frosty bird concquer but well that was more the lack of a anti freeze flask (I fix that tomorrow all xD) and a lack of knowledge because during earlier encounter he was insta dead. As I said i kinda feel immortal with the cyclone setup.
Why would i bullshit about something like this, i even took the trouble of putting back the build the way it was before, yes i am running offering, i just didnt feel like changing the colors back, and i know i am not running support spectres right now, its because without the slave drive spectres my zombies to barely any damage in white maps, and they die very fast. i already moved on from the build and am onto ele hit mines which i am much happeier with, in red maps already and never looked back. i played this build the last 4 leagues and was farming UE with it, i know how it runs, but i definitely have noticed a differnce and dont feel like tweaking the build when i see pople running into problems in red maps with good gear.
Im doing tier 10's with a femur 5L and a 5L chest in SC right now, haven't faced anything problematic so far. i am quite sure you did something horribly wrong and blame the build for it :)
Ps. I did Tier 14 50% more life, 12% ele pen, 60% extra as fire eradicator on a 5link with a 4 link skellies too, just do confirm its not the build.
Could you explain a little better? I can't understand it totaly, the incusion drop already came with Avian + 1lvl + minion dmg?
You need a staff with Citaqualotl's prefix (Minions deal 105-110% increased damage and minions have 5% chance to deal double damage), paragon's prefix (+1 to level of Socketed gems), 1 empty prefix and 1 empty suffix. If you feel lucky, you can get this by using orbs of annulment on cheaper bases. Then you link it, craft metamod "Prefixes cannot be changed", use scour, craft "Can have up to 3 crafted mods" and finish with level to supports and generic minion attack and cast speed. Then buy Saqawine Rhex, go to Saqawal's Roost, capture the boss and craft aspect of the avian. If you're lucky, you can also get Saqawal's Nest there.
What is the best way to put +1 lvl of socketed gems with Citaqualot's mod in the item?
I have a doubt with Geofris Santuary, it is about zealots Oath, is it really worth changing the regeneration of life to the energy shield? Right now I have 3300 of life and 900 of ES, is this really the best armor for the build?
I would like to know the answer to both questions if possible, thank you very much
Yes, its very good but you must have 1k STR or you wont be able to regen any life. If you have <1,000 STR I wouldnt use it.
With the heavy chaos damages in this patch, i wouldn't go for it to be honest. Well, unless you're chaos resist capped.
Im doing tier 10's with a femur 5L and a 5L chest in SC right now, haven't faced anything problematic so far. i am quite sure you did something horribly wrong and blame the build for it :)
Ps. I did Tier 14 50% more life, 12% ele pen, 60% extra as fire eradicator on a 5link with a 4 link skellies too, just do confirm its not the build.
That's why my post said maybe the issue is that I just suck and should give up on the game. Ultimately I don't like the cyclone playstyle, so summoner may no longer be a build that I should play. I don't know if I want to waste all my currency converting entirely to this build. I tried it in standard and it still feels meh, I am fully aware the problem is with me and likely not the build.
From the last time I made some upgrades for myself:
1) Sold 5L Saqawal for 5 exalts when it was still expensive (3 ex profit)
2) Bought 6S Queen's Hunger with +1 zombie and skeleton for QoL with offerings and made it 6L (5 ex loss)
3) Bought a Hunter belt with %attributes (50 chaos loss)
4) Sold a 5L Femurs (40 chaos profit)
5) Bought a 6L weapon (3 ex loss)
6) Bought Lvl 4 Empower (6.5 ex loss)
7) Anoint and catalysed Astramentis (50 chaos loss)
Total amount spent: 12 exalts.
Last edited by Ksakep on Dec 18, 2019, 10:27:41 PM
I have a doubt with Geofris Santuary, it is about zealots Oath, is it really worth changing the regeneration of life to the energy shield? Right now I have 3300 of life and 900 of ES, is this really the best armor for the build?
I would like to know the answer to both questions if possible, thank you very much
Yes, its very good but you must have 1k STR or you wont be able to regen any life. If you have <1,000 STR I wouldnt use it.
With the heavy chaos damages in this patch, i wouldn't go for it to be honest. Well, unless you're chaos resist capped.
Yeah, someone was just telling me this was the one league where you need to Chaos resist.
That said, Sasequal's Nest isn't exactly affordable... its 3ex min currently, also a ton of price gouging going on Efficient Training jewels :(
