Last night I switched from a Femur with skellies to a Dancing Duo with no skellies and so far I'm liking this change.
Yeah a few pages back I was talking about this but no one seemed to care or notice. Dancing Duo is insane with the build and I think the chaos route could be really good too.
As far as Arakali's / Soulwrest / DD comparison. I like DD for the wither stacking. They attack like 20 times a second (multistrike) so on bosses withered will be maxed out all the time. Giving you a lot more damage especially when you are converting phys to chaos with the gloves. Also with Soulwrest you need to deal with corpses which slows you down. The goal is zoom zoom.
If you were the person who posted the T10 map clear video with DD, then yeah you were the inspiration for wanting to try DD. Thank you for posting it!
The only thing I don't like about DD playstyle is that I can't really stop to loot much. I had to change my loot filter to strict to keep everything moving and to keep the DD uptime. Also it feels a little unreliable for bosses without a couple Writhing Jars, but I guess I could probably keep a Femur on the weapon swap if need be.
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Have you looked at Dancing Duo vs Soulwrest? Both are roughly the same cost and not needing 6L. Arakaali’s Fang would probably be the best option, but 2 ex is a bit more than I care for.
I've never tried builds with Soulwrest or Arakaali's Fang but I can't imagine Phantasms from Soulwrest clear with anywhere close to the speed that Dancing Duos do. The spiders seem really interesting and I like that you don't need to constantly stop to resummon them. Would they be maintainable on boss fights?
I have ~20% less damage than a 2h mace setup but defense should be better with a shield and 80% allres.
You really dont need melee splash, effectively you are running a 5link. Get lvl 1-2 empower depending on your budget.
I dont get why every one is so fixated on using melee splash, it's just a dead gem in your setup. im running a 5link zombies and they shredded shapers guardians like they were paper.
How important is desecrate level since the Raise Spectre sets the level now? I'm struggling with getting dex and would have to socket +dex gems instead of minion gems right now while leveling.
Last night I switched from a Femur with skellies to a Dancing Duo with no skellies and so far I'm liking this change. My zombies suffer from losing the +2 skill levels and I lose some defensive stats from not using Femur, but my already amazing clear speed is now lightspeed and I don't have to stop every few seconds to resummon skeletons and can instead just focus on using Flesh Offering. Because Dancing Duo is slotted with Withering Support, if I get an 4 all white socketed Triad Gloves, the Dancing Duo will cause all of my zombies to do up to 90% increased chaos damage. If I go down the full Chaos damage route, I could also potentially replace Flesh Offering with Spirit Offering for 30% extra chaos damage and 30% all resist for minions. Another perk is because zombies are so strong now, if you pause for a few seconds and lose DD, your zombies will effortlessly bring it back in a few seconds.
Qilda, I'm not sure if you've touched on Dancing Duo as an option, but I'm really curious what your thoughts are.
i haven't touched it as all, as i was under the understanding that it is usually seen as a build in itself. I might look into it as a hybrid build, however i feel like the loss of the beloved mace it'll end up as less dps. You do state that the clear is smooth as a baby's butt, so i might use it as an cheap alternative to the mace / femur and so on.
Thank you for sharing your experience, it helps us all :D
First of all , Thanks for this awesome Guide im lovin it to play.
I didnt read all the posts so sorry if its mentiont earlier:
OILS FOR 3.8!
Spoiler
With the introduction of oils for amulets in 3.8 i felt it that i had to make a small section for this. NOTE THAT IF YOU USE A CORRUPTED AMULET, I.E TALISMAN YOU CANNOT USE OILS.
If you want to use oils, and therefore use a non-talisman amulet go for the following:
Additional Zombie.
Flat strength.
Life.
Resists.
Minimum endurance charge.
Idealily on a Amber amulet.
Which node to grease up?!
Death attunement As it frees up 6 points. It frees up 1 less point than ravenous horde, however keeping ravenous horde means that Grave intentions are close by, and movement speed is everything for melee minions. However you can also decide to oil up ravenous horde, drop grave intentions for indomitable army.
What to spend the free points on?
I'd say its an easy decision, as we can pick up the full scion life wheel for the 6 points, adding 800 life to the build, which is NICE!
For your oil choice, if you take "Ravenous Horde" as OilNode and still wanna use "Grave intention" you can save 6 Speccpoints (same as oiling "Death Attunement") when you travel over "Deep Wisdom" instead the 3 int nodes which leads to RH.
Thank you for pointing it out, a guy on my stream also pointed it out that i can travel through deep wisdom ^^ guys like you only make the build better, as i have too much going on to spot every detail. I'll be changing it before i head to bed :D
Yeah a few pages back I was talking about this but no one seemed to care or notice. Dancing Duo is insane with the build and I think the chaos route could be really good too.
As far as Arakali's / Soulwrest / DD comparison. I like DD for the wither stacking. They attack like 20 times a second (multistrike) so on bosses withered will be maxed out all the time. Giving you a lot more damage especially when you are converting phys to chaos with the gloves. Also with Soulwrest you need to deal with corpses which slows you down. The goal is zoom zoom.
Hmm, that’s interesting with wither. Honestly we could drop half our single target dps, and it would be worth it for me for increased clear speed. Once you get past a couple million, more dps is a luxury, not necessary. Just think, minions used to get rampage...
How important is desecrate level since the Raise Spectre sets the level now? I'm struggling with getting dex and would have to socket +dex gems instead of minion gems right now while leveling.
desecrate gem level doesn't matter anymore, since the spectre summoned now depends on the spectre skill gem rather than the corpse used. ^^
For your oil choice, if you take "Ravenous Horde" as OilNode and still wanna use "Grave intention" you can save 6 Speccpoints (same as oiling "Death Attunement") when you travel over "Deep Wisdom" instead the 3 int nodes which leads to RH.
Thank you for pointing it out, a guy on my stream also pointed it out that i can travel through deep wisdom ^^ guys like you only make the build better, as i have too much going on to spot every detail. I'll be changing it before i head to bed :D
I'd say the best choice for anointment is grave intentions. You save 6 points compared to the 7 points you save if you choose ravenous horde (and get grave intentions through deep wisdom) but the small nodes leading to ravenous horde are actually useful whereas the two nodes before grave intentions are pretty much useless. So with grave intentions anointed you get 18% move, 18% damage, 5% attack speed from RH. Pretty nice and certainly a lot better than what you take from GI.
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Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios on Sep 10, 2019, 5:06:18 PM
Thanks to oils we can have up to 5 spectres, what would you pick as a 5th spectre?
This isn't a Spectre build. So, not sure why you would go out of your way to do that.
"Which node to grease up?!
Death attunement"
+1 to Maximum number of Spectres
Minions have 8% increased Attack Speed
Minions have 8% increased Cast Speed
+1 to Maximum number of Raised Zombies
+1 to Maximum number of Skeletons
It's recommended on the build and it gives us zombie and also additional specte so thats why Im asking what 5th spectre should be.
Doing that saves you points to get your FOURTH spectre. You're talking about going out of your way for a fifth, two different things.
